>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^shuac:
To ChaosEngine: I'm unimpressed by ad populum arguments (that because it's popular, it must therefore be true, or good, or whatever). It's a logical fallacy and I don't dig fallacies so much. Also, regarding the case for the value of terse storytelling: well done sir! If only Ebert and I were arguing against terse storytelling, you'd really have us against the ropes. You dropped some straw, man.
I was pointing out that the film has received plenty of critical acclaim. Ebert is welcome to his (increasingly irrelevant) opinion, but my opinion is that he's wrong and I stand by it. I'm not alone either.
My point about Hemingways story wasn't about terseness, it was about inference. There are aspects to The Raids storyline that aren't written down in the script. And even then it wasn't a direct rebuttal to anything Ebert (or you) said, merely a point about how I felt the movie was made. But go ahead and assume everything is related to you.
You don't have to like the Raid, and you're welcome to go watch some tedious pseudo-intellectual bullshit for a few hours if it strokes your ego, but comparing it to "Ass" in Idiocracy is, as @Sarzy pointed out (and somewhat ironically) idiocy.
Sorry for sounding like a condescending prick, but you work to your audience. At least I can actually form my own opinion rather than regurgitate someone else's.


Not directed at me? So you'd have posted what you did even if I never made that first post, is that right? Very good then. So long as we're free to infer what we like to any film bereft of story, I'd like to infer a compelling yarn into the multiple award-winning (and fictional) film called Ass.

In Ass, our protagonist is a subject in a medical trial testing an anti-flagellant. It's a closed study so all the test subjects are sequestered. Despite this, our hero smuggles in some chilli for supper the night before. The twist? He's in the placebo group.

Now wasn't Ass a great film? I see your point now. Well-done again!

Most impressive about this post is that I did it on an iPhone.

Enjoy your day!

>> ^shuac:

To ChaosEngine: I'm unimpressed by ad populum arguments (that because it's popular, it must therefore be true, or good, or whatever). It's a logical fallacy and I don't dig fallacies so much. Also, regarding the case for the value of terse storytelling: well done sir! If only Ebert and I were arguing against terse storytelling, you'd really have us against the ropes. You dropped some straw, man.

I was pointing out that the film has received plenty of critical acclaim. Ebert is welcome to his (increasingly irrelevant) opinion, but my opinion is that he's wrong and I stand by it. I'm not alone either.

My point about Hemingways story wasn't about terseness, it was about inference. There are aspects to The Raids storyline that aren't written down in the script. And even then it wasn't a direct rebuttal to anything Ebert (or you) said, merely a point about how I felt the movie was made. But go ahead and assume everything is related to you.

You don't have to like the Raid, and you're welcome to go watch some tedious pseudo-intellectual bullshit for a few hours if it strokes your ego, but comparing it to "Ass" in Idiocracy is, as @Sarzy pointed out (and somewhat ironically) idiocy.

Sorry for sounding like a condescending prick, but you work to your audience. At least I can actually form my own opinion rather than regurgitate someone else's.

I liked Ebert's take on it:

"'The Raid: Redemption' is essentially a visualized video game that spares the audience the inconvenience of playing it."

"There's obviously an audience for the film, probably a large one. They are content, even eager, to sit in a theater and watch one action figure after another pound and blast one another to death. Have you noticed how cats and dogs will look at a TV screen on which there are things jumping around? It is to that level of the brain's reptilian complex that the film appeals."

"So what am I saying? "The Raid: Redemption" failed as a generic success because it simplified its plot too much? Not really. It is a generic success. And yet my heart sank and I asked myself: Is this all they want? Are audiences satisfied with ceaseless violence, just so long as they can praise it for being "well choreographed?" Is there no appreciation for human dimension, meaning, and morality?"

I've seen this movie before. Elf, Encino Man, Austin Powers, Idiocracy. Hell... Futurama.

Is this going to be like an anti-Idiocracy?

Yea, that's true...you do have some pretty ignorant "sods" over there don't you? (btw I love the word "sod")>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^rottenseed:
Well, we've got that whole "middle bit" that drives the average down.>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^rottenseed:
I do. We are.>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^Edgeman2112:
After watching this, Americans (I'm one) aren't all that stupid in comparison. This was painful to listen to the unfunny, high school wise cracks. I feel bad for Cox.

Who on earth suggested you were?


Oh right, you mean in general? Because out of the Top 8 Smartest People Ever (based on IQ) 3 of them are American...


And we have chavs. Idiocracy reality here we come!

>> ^rottenseed:

Well, we've got that whole "middle bit" that drives the average down.>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^rottenseed:
I do. We are.>> ^alien_concept:
>> ^Edgeman2112:
After watching this, Americans (I'm one) aren't all that stupid in comparison. This was painful to listen to the unfunny, high school wise cracks. I feel bad for Cox.

Who on earth suggested you were?


Oh right, you mean in general? Because out of the Top 8 Smartest People Ever (based on IQ) 3 of them are American...



And we have chavs. Idiocracy reality here we come!

The first step towards Idiocracy. In 3-5 years we'll find out the ones who missed the most questions already have a kid with another on the way.

Every now and again, I get a little glimmer of hope that our species is not doomed to the future depicted in Idiocracy. This is one of those days.

Idiocracy returns as a reality show.

Those consoles turn kids into morons. Growing up playing console games prepares kids to the world of Idiocracy and cash registers with pictures of hamburgers instead of numbers.

The worst thing is that the industry is starting to to dumb down MMO's to the console crowds level.

It's really sad. The worst part is these kids have no idea what they are missing.

I really hate the ingame hints. It totally breaks the immersion. It used to be an option you could toggle, but now it is just there even when you don't want/need it.

Don't even get me started on the whole console controller thing. The idea of steering a 200mph car or 600mph plane with two buttons is so utterly stupid, it makes my skin crawl. Oh but little Tommy is too wasted to or lacks the attention span to aquire and set up a decent six axis jobstick, wah, wah, wah, QQ.

oh very well. sure, it's worthy of a beg.

wouldn't watch the movie even if they paid me to,
but crews was plenty funny in Idiocracy, and this scene rates a chuckle.

>> ^quantumushroom:

A gaggle of marxist enviro-statists decide the way to undermine capitalism is to claim:
a) they know the precise temperature that the earth should be for the next 100 years
and
b) that they can actually achieve this precise temperature via taxes and regulation.

As hubristic and delusional as a guy at the beach yelling, "STAND BACK everyone! I'm PISSING in the OCEAN!"


The reason taxation and regulation is occuring is because almost everyone in government is a twat. It's the same reason why they raise the price of alcohol and tobacco to try and cut down on alcohol and tobacco use. Same reason why they say using cannabis funds criminals, make it illegal and push it squarely into the realm of the criminal. And finally the same reason why they tell us taxes will solve climate change.... MAXIMUM PROFIT.

Mark my words; the real actual science on climate change is undeniable, the policies stemming from climate change are according to the arsehole politicians' whims.

You are an absolute fool for one reason and one reason only; you attack climate change science and not the politicians using it to their own gain. You're blind man, totally blind. I hope one day you realise that it's the lies that are wrong, not the fucking science. Wake up.

It's a shame cos in a way you're dead right, the politicians are coming up with pointless regulation and pointless taxes to get more money from everyone, but it's THEY who are wrong and not the fucking science. Stop attacking science, it's like attacking rationality - science is something everyone can and should agree with. Science is perhaps the ONLY THING that we can and should all agree with because science is blind to religion, status, political view, skin colour; everything. It just tells you the honest facts. This is undeniable - anything else IS NOT science.

You're listening to the wrong fucking people QM, you're not listening to scientists you're listening to government. Your bullshit radar needs fixing, that's all; you can't distinguish between people who know and people who merely tell you convincingly that they know.

BTW:
@EDD was quoting Idiocracy. A film never more appropriately invoked.

I think we need a new channel on the sift that is a fusion of the oft combined Terrible, Politics and News:

*idiocracy

What we are really wondering is who the person was who had access to the camera in the pig's car that uploaded the video to youtube, were they male or female or sex be-damned, did they simply want to see a douchebag go down once, and for all??!!

Texas has a notorious good-ol' boy network of assholes. Some of these assholes become police because the job description best suits their already established tendencies towards control, power over others, or simply their own tiny, tiny penis combined with latent dominant or abused/abuser tendencies. Most of these poor rejects were abused and they best suit the position-That position being to fill the ranks of those who allegedly "protect and serve" with the actual animal, hind-brained petty thugs who will follow orders and dish out hate.

"Fuck the Police coming straight from the underground."
The systems' broke and can't be fixed, merely altered or eradicated. Come, let's rebuild on the ashes. America is a lifeless husk anyhow- The architecture is ugly, the government as corrupt as any third-world nation, and the people are becoming more and more like the cast from "Idiocracy" daily.