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NYC's Anti-Vax Rally in 49 Seconds

luxintenebris says...

yes, that is all too true. can be very successful yet be oblivious to the realities around them.

- remember an interview w/Ted Turner, while he was on top in the cable world (CNN was king). when speaking about business matters; very insightful. But when the questions about current affairs came around; he gave his opinion then changed it or said IDK anytime the interview offered a counterpoint.

- in an interview w/Colin Powell, as Sec of State, when the interviewer tried to corner him on how, looking at his GPA in HS and college, he ever made it to a 4-star general? all Colin would do was smile and say (something like) "It's good to be American. It offers many great opportunities to many people." That line of questioning ending in both parties smiling and chuckling.

- had to show our valedictorian how to put air into a tire. watching them struggle was hilarious but made one empathic.

also the belief anyone can become the president of the U.S.A. is both inspiring and terrifying. (as we all know now)

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seeing this video, and the truth of the above sentence is a reason why education should become one of the top three, if not top, priorities, and quests of this nation. paired w/a universal form of national service* should provide all citizens will the skills to perceive wtf is actually going on.

*a former military serviceman, back from Iraq, noticed that Congress has far fewer former service members in their ranks since the early '80s. he noted in the military there are many ilks of service personnel, but they all work toward one goal. they have to - or they fail. reading this, have to believe - like Bush, Sr and Clinton both agreed on - that all Americans should put in some form of national service . since it'd foster a better understanding of other Americans: how they lived, how they were raised, their beliefs, the challenges they must face...i.e. see more than what's outside your 'bubble'.

this idea and a couple of other GREAT bipartisan ideas have waned since 9/11 but it'd be a hell of a fix.

* * * * realizing have wandered off the trail * * * *

or more concisely; to your point...

a body might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but any tool can become useful.

SFOGuy said:

I know a fair number of smart people who have bad skills in epistemology, who have very odd anti-tax beliefs.

But whose IQ in their area of expertise is high. Some, not too oddly, are frankly on the spectrum.

Others have been quite successful and intelligent in a narrow area and then--sort of ail outside it. A bit, I suppose, like a lot of us. Only on this matter, it matters.

NYC's Anti-Vax Rally in 49 Seconds

SFOGuy says...

I know a fair number of smart people who have bad skills in epistemology, who have very odd anti-tax beliefs.

But whose IQ in their area of expertise is high. Some, not too oddly, are frankly on the spectrum.

Others have been quite successful and intelligent in a narrow area and then--sort of ail outside it. A bit, I suppose, like a lot of us. Only on this matter, it matters.

newtboy said:

Not sure I understand. Neither article dealt with common sense, only that people with high iq's often aren't what most would consider "successful" and rarely fit in in a world that values predictable uninspired thinking and those who take the road more traveled over intelligence and unique thought processes.
I could be Steve from the second article if my IQ was 46 points higher. His mannerisms sound just like me, except I don't limit my references to three movies. I went to college for over ten years with no plan for any degree...but accidentally qualified for a general science degree anyway. I've never seen a successful career as the road to happiness, so many successful professionals are miserable...same goes for wealth. I've always thought, when you find yourself in want of something, don't ask the universe to give you more, ask it to help you want less. That road leads to contentment and happiness. Does that mean I have more, or less common sense than average? It definitely makes me abnormal, many would say unsuccessful....I think they measure success wrong.

Denver cops refuse mandatory Covid vaccinations

SFOGuy says...

They are waiting for the FDA to certify as something other than Emergency Use Authorization ("EUA")--Although they don't HAVE to wait for that; they could.

One thought? If you push the anti-vaxxer folks out of law enforcement--and this is just conjecture--I wonder if you would also be pushing out a certain proportion of folks with particular political and behavioral beliefs...

newtboy said:

Wtf!? Why give them until the end of September!? They should get until the end of business today. The delta variant is highly infectious and much more deadly than previous variants and they interact with dozens of people in close contact daily. Any public employee that interacts with the public should be required to be safe in every reasonable way possible.

So, 71% are about to be unemployed and lose their pensions!? Bullshit, they won’t follow through. Odd when the police want to defund themselves this way. Not surprised that those who enforce the rules declare they won’t follow the rules.

Fox & GOP Freak Out About Door to Door Vaccination Campaign

luxintenebris jokingly says...

Irony abounds...

- The 'Freedom' or 'Government-shoving-it-down-our-throats' argument is killing them and their kin. The Brian Kilmeade[s] of the world are forcing their beliefs on others. Walking around with COVID is LITERALLY forcing your belief on others! What 'freedom' exists when your fellow Americas insist on being the 21st Typhoid Marys...or COVID Karens?

- The same stand-for-the-flag crowd are the ones carrying Confederate flags, and using American flag poles to kill Capitol police.

- They say they'd take a bullet for their country - but not a shot?

In any other situation, if the virus killed ONLY the unvaccinated, left others alone, then maybe it'd be a civil rights issue. It's not. (would test their resolve, and ours as how many morons would have to die before we'd drag them into the streets and give them the shots they needed)*

But Bob's mind is likely to change as Republican governors are now taking this seriously (not a political strategy). Think in MS and LA the red are moving to get their mutts fixed. Maybe, it'll get to the point you'd have to show a vaccine passport to use a public port-a-potty. Or the "Shot for the S**t of it" campaign. 'Tho BK's "Put a stand up at liquor store / grocery stores" is an insight to a Turd Reich supporter's mindset. Maybe throw beer bashing, get them drunk enough they'll accept the 'free tattoo' in the back room. Vaccinate the entire pound.

How did this happen? When following doddering old fools become the rage against the machine? Or a death cult become the flag-bearers of the 'Pary of Lincoln'? Less a party; more a wake. When did being paranoid become the drug of the masses? Was a time one would have to take a drug, listen to 'Paranoid' before ya' lost your f'n' mind! Now it's coffee and Tucker Carlson then they're seeing CIA agents in the shadows.

Shout out to the old days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qanF-91aJo


*yeah. I know. How would y'all work 'drag them into the street and shoot them' into the flow?

TSA Further Complicates Their Inspection Process-SOUTH PARK

moonsammy says...

You know, I think one of the things I find most consistently funny about Matt and Trey is their weird delivery of certain words / phrases. The clip was only ok, but that "yees" at the end was perfection. Some of the South Park delivery (particularly Cartman) was immediately memorable and caught on / was repeated pretty broadly. Their repeated use of "Derp!" in the largely-forgotten Baseketball was so excellent it ended up becoming a commonly-used word! If you've seen Orgazmo, Trey's "OH?!" in that one gets me every damn time too (and if you haven't seen it and like their general sense of humor, it's fantastic).

I can understand not digging their humor or their beliefs on some topics, but for goofy characterizations they're frickin' amazing.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. Dick Tracy. I guess that’s your way of admitting I proved everything you said was dead wrong and that Trump duped you with another lie into continuing to believe the big lie, that the only way the least popular president in memory who takes absolutely no responsibility for the blood of hundreds of thousands on his hands and a crumbling economy and absolutely insane deficit and debt and the almost total division of the union lost the election was if there was massive and meaningful fraud.
I doubt it, there is no amount of proof that you’re wrong that could convince you, because the belief doesn’t stem from proof, it stems from your undying faith in the blatant baseless lies of a consistent con man.

With the courts packed like sardines with Trump judges, you somehow think liberals let people off from legitimate charges. LMFAHS! Or did Biden pardon them like Trump had to pardon most of his “best people” (now called “garbage stars”) from crimes they did for him? Don’t think so.
They were released because police arrested anyone they could grab, then made up ridiculous charges, and in court had no evidence against any of them…so they were released as the law requires….except for the white supremacist right wing terrorists caught with bombs, guns, molotovs, and terrorist manifestos, there’s plenty of evidence against them. The FBI and DOD agreed the right wing terrorists like proud boys and boogaloo boys, like those I pointed out, caused approximately half the violence at BLM protests, non protester bystanders caused one quarter, and BLM protesters caused one quarter.

Nut bag fake news….which means all true but you don’t like it, right? Not a word of it can you contradict, but your mantra, fake news, will save you from acknowledging reality, that you’re in an anti American racist terrorist cult.

bobknight33 said:

Wow good going Dick Tracy.

Sadly Biden liberals let the ANTIFA and BLM terrorist out of jail with out charging so all that is nut-bag fake news twisting Anti Trump stories.

Fox & GOP Freak Out About Door to Door Vaccination Campaign

newtboy says...

Holy shit, you’re a moron….an incredibly dangerous, deadly, irresponsible, pro death moron.

600000+ is more dead Americans than were killed in every war back to the Civil war combined. We should never have gone to war then, even when we were attacked. No enemy has ever come anywhere near 600000. By your logic, Pearl Harbor didn’t matter, protecting Korea didn’t matter, the war on terror didn’t matter, no war mattered…why should another nation or people be punished for under a 2% American death rate?

Islamic terrorists too….they only killed 3000 on American soil…why on earth would you punish them, that’s only .5% of COVID deaths, a nothing burger, but your ilk loses their minds over Arabs and Muslims, so much you tried to ban them, remove their civil rights, and murder them at random because you can’t tell the difference between a Shiek and a Daesh warrior. Why, Bob, if 600000 dead is a nothing burger, would you care a thing about 3000? Must be a different skin color/different belief prejudice thing.

You still want to investigate again and prosecute Clinton over 4 deaths in a hostile foreign country she wasn’t responsible for….but 600000 on American soil on the Cowardly Liar’s watch…. nothing to see here.

BLM was responsible for approximately 6 deaths at protests last year (right wing attackers were responsible for around 13 including the police they murdered to blame on BLM), and you want to ban and prosecute BLM members but not proud or boogaloo boys….but 600000 deaths, >90% of which were easily avoidable with just minimal leadership instead of the denial and blame shifting we got…fugehtabowdit!

And immigrants, they now have 600000 empty slots to fill before adding a single person to our population….open those borders and ring the dinner bell.

Only 2% of people tossed off fourth story roofs die, another way of saying that is 98% survive. I’ll be right over to throw you and your children off a fourth story roof….you won’t press charges because only a 2% chance of death each shouldn’t be punished, right?
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Yes, absolutely, if there’s a 2% death rate (I’m pretty certain it’s rising), and one unvaccinated idiot gives it to 50 more because you morons also won’t mask up or social distance, you just murdered someone and wasted around $4000000 to try to treat them. Like an arsonist that kills and maims people, you should go to prison for life.
Now consider you dumbshits are creating an epsilon variant that’s not effected by vaccination and is FAR more transmissible and deadly….you ARE the Wuhan lab creating another pandemic. You and yours are guilty of what you accuse China of doing, intentionally creating and releasing a deadly pandemic….because you’re fucking idiots. You think the Chinese involved should be executed….so logically so should anyone that refuses vaccination and gets COVID. That’s 99% of all COVID cases now.

Should you or someone else be punished for just one murder? If so, you get it and you are just trolling stupidly…if not, I’m going to need your address and to have that in writing with your signature, notarized and signed by a judge….then I’ll be right over to save you from a tiny shot with a much larger shot.

How many trillions did 18 months of COVID cost America alone? >$16 trillion IF it ends this fall….And you’re advocating another round or two. Are you and the other anti science dummies willing to put your entire net worth in escrow to pay for the damage your ignorant obstinance causes? I’m certain not, republicans NEVER accept responsibility for their actions….never….so stop the insanity and man up, or be a pariah, ostracized from society in a cell.

*************Trump said it’s not only safe, it’s smart and patriotic. Are you saying he’s lying to you, or that you aren’t smart or patriotic? If you only answer one question, make it this one.*************

There’s an over 10% hospitalization rate at an average of $80000 (some cost millions and still don’t make it) and of those hospitalized, 80+% had neurological symptoms, 50% had encephalopathy, and far more than twice as many had permanent brain damage as died…plus heart, lung, muscular, etc. disabilities, plus many losing one of their 5 senses permanently….why should the government pay for your choice to be irresponsible? Waive your rights to assistance now, it’s socialism anyway.

Then there’s the Petri dish angle….every non vaccinated asshole is a place for the virus to mutate enough that vaccination is made moot….and we are right back to April 2020 with another 600000 likely to die before any help, another year of businesses closed and social distancing at a minimum. Absolutely anyone making that possible, endangering hundreds of thousands of lives, permanently disabling at least twice that many Americans, killing another 1000 + children (the Delta variant already effects children much worse than the original) and severely disabling tens of thousands more, and orphaning hundreds of thousands, deserves life in prison or firing squad. Then let’s talk about the unintended abortions….getting COVID while pregnant is a near guaranteed death of the fetus….since when are you uneducated idiots pro abortion? Make no mistake, refusing to vaccinate causes unwanted abortions.

So again, absolutely you should be forced to vaccinate or be forcibly quarantined, and forced to pay the full cost of treatment for anyone you infect through willful negligence, and prosecuted for cases leading to death and permanent brain damage, and pay for lifetime care for the disabled, and not have your care paid for because it was 100% your choice….in fact no care at all, your ilk should never take up a bed needed by a child that couldn’t vaccinate, children are over 20% of cases, and while they don’t die as often, they still get permanent brain, heart, lung, and other damage at high rates.

What are you so afraid of, little baby? Republican women have much bigger balls than Republican men….they aren’t afraid of a tiny prick, they see them all the time.

bobknight33 said:

600000 dead is only a 2% Death rate.
Another way of saying it 98% survival rate.

And if you are younger than 60 it more like 99% survival rate.

So should you be forced or else be punish in some for or fashion for a 2% death rate?

The real history of the kkk. Democrats leave this out

luxintenebris jokingly says...

have tried to watch this before, but knowing better ruins the flow.

just listen to the 'aliases' he lists...confederacy, jim crow, black codes, dixi-crats, and the kkk.

now think...think REAL hard...which party supports confederate monuments? voter suppression? where are most of these 'security' bills being passed? what group is portraying the BLM as villains? which supporters brought a confederate flag into the Capitol building?

if all those things are bad then, then they are bad now. no matter who did them, or when.

but...that jogs a thought...the author presents evidence that racism worked itself into the law. everyday life. somewhere i just heard there was some theory that includes this very belief? seemed it was critical about racial injustice embedded into US establishments? what was it called?

just own your bias. then give objectivity an hour.

...since y'all want to be up on the up and up...
https://digg.com/video/this-40-minute-video-investigation-about-the-capitol-riot-is-the-most-definitive-account-of-what-happened-that-day

General Mark Milley hits back at uproar over critical race..

QAmom - Confronting my mom's conspiracy theories

eric3579 says...

I'm not sure what amazes me more...

Real people actually believe these crazy things or she seems to have reasonable relationships in spite of the crazy beliefs which seems to consume her time.

My 50 Cal Exploded

Khufu says...

Maybe what these people mean (whether they know it or not) is that their belief in a god gave them the false(yet real enough to them) confidence that they would be ok, which gave them the courage and energy to push through and do all the things to make sure they had the opportunity to have the medical staff fix them. It's like how a lot of people have religion to thank for getting sober and off the street, not because of the divine influence of the hand of god or some shit... some people just need the religious 'narrative' to help them keep moving forward, where others may not need it at all and not see the point.

because obviously if god can physically save this dude's life, then he would have also had the power to make that barrel survive the hot round which I'm sure the dude in question would have preferred.

newtboy said:

God always gets the best press.

People love to credit him with saving them from near death despite it clearly being extreme efforts by skilled doctors that did, but never blame God when it was pure chance and bad luck that caused their mortal wounds.

To me, if God deserves credit, it's for the chance happening, the bad luck out of anyone's control, not the Herculean human efforts to repair the damage. If people really believed God intervenes, all Christians would be Christian Scientists or Jehovah's witnesses and refuse human medical treatments.

Racing for $100

luxintenebris jokingly says...

naw.

he may have known a couple of track athletes in the group. so the guarantee could be warranted.

Prejudice is a bias or a preconceived opinion, idea, or belief about something. When you act based on prejudice, you make up your mind about something and make generalizations about it before fully knowing about it. (from dictionary.com)


missing the point, anyway. here's a video in a similar vein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LopI4YeC4I

btw: am biased against the word 'race': as if there was more than one? even with neanderthal genetics, we should retire 'race' as a descriptive term. it's a misnomer.

greatgooglymoogly said:

"If everyone was back on that line, I guarantee some of these black dudes would smoke all of you."

LOL, nothing like a little prejudice while trying to make a point about race.

AKA, "black people, the only way you could possibly lose this race is because a white guy has a head start."

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

I do not share your opinion. Provided Bob isn't in-fact a Russian troll, he's still an American.

Pop quiz, which is the best political party?
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Trick question, the best party in America is America.

“We’re so glad to see so many of you lovely people here tonight. And we would especially like to welcome all the representatives of Illinois’s law enforcement community that have chosen to join us here in the Palace Hotel Ballroom at this time. We certainly hope you all enjoy the show. And remember, people, that no matter who you are and what you do to live, thrive and survive, there’re still some things that makes us all the same. You. Me. Them. Everybody. Everybody.”






That said,

They'll get their own misery when they feel the policy they helped create begin to affect them. Trust me, it doesn't need help. My dad is scrambling trying to save for his retirement at 65 and scoffs at the idea of the stimulus checks he got, refuses to cash the "biden bucks"

Let me tell you. Jeff Bezos? Mark Zuckerburg? They don't give a shit about moral quandaries when offered free money, they take it, happily.
If you're pulling down millions every year and cook the books a bit, that's "smart." Walk in to a social security office with a baby on your arm a day early, that's "criminal," (almost like stealing).

Do that enough + a bunch of VERY-MUCH-NOT billionaires voting for it and u have the republican party.


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I also don't care for the malformed logic they practice. Another republican acquaintance of mine called me a "segregationist" because I said trans-athletes should be able to play on the team of their self identified sex.

Whether you agree with me on that or not, me saying that they SHOULD play on an integrated team does NOT make me a segregationist, unless you completely redefine the word.

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Finally, I do agree there is some room for some anger. I don't like it when the GOP or their sycophants go on a "Let's take rights away from someone today, AS A TEAM!"

When the message is the OPPOSITE of "There are still some things that make us all the same," it's infuriating. Because if it can happen to them, it can happen to you.

Take what's happening with their complaints of "cancel culture"
Coca Cola, Disney, etc etc private companies and bakeries

The new and improved supreme court helped establish that private businesses can discriminate against you based on a genuine philosophical or religious belief. Bakery vs the gay couple "TAKE THAT, GAYS!!!"

They didn't realize that that meant ALL businesses could now do that. But again, if it happens to them, it can happen to you.

Bob here is like one of the fans throwing garbage on the field when Jackie Robinson gets up to bat. "WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET YOUR OWN NEGRO -ERR TRANS LEAGUE?"


He truly doesn't know he's being manipulated.



p.s. https://www.npr.org/2018/06/04/605003519/supreme-court-decides-in-favor-of-baker-over-same-sex-couple-in-cake-shop-case

Now, it's easy to point out "LOOK!!! no no no it's not!!! see! it says right here, they CANT just do it if you're not this specific baker." That's not stopping this guy from 6 days ago

https://w ww.whas11.co (link too long) m/article/news/investigations/focus/radcliff-kentucky-tax-preparer-refusing-business-to-lgbtq-couples/417-c2575ded-feed-45d8-b6f7-49016ec9eba3

made a tiny^ https://tinyurl.com/myd5ubrc

surfingyt said:

his tears are real! time to pursue an agenda with ruthless action and absorb their anguish for more energy. look forward to bob's President Biden and congress delivering more and more misery upon him and other republicants.

Biden, Illegals, detained, fail.

newtboy says...

ROTFLMAHS!!!

If you died and God was standing before you bathed in peace inducing angelic light performing miracles, but wasn't orange with a disheveled long hair squirrel on his head, you would deny his divinity and call him a liberal tool.

You are correct, if someone calling themselves God stands in front of me with what appears to be *I'm dead relatives I would assume either 1) I had gone bat shit insane or 2) some alien intelligence was trying to trick me into the matrix. The only time a being claiming to be God might have any credibility is after I'm dead, and even then I would be suspicious, maybe they just made me think I died.
The supernatural isn't real. There is no magic. Ghosts don't exist. Demons and angles aren't real. Neither is the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, manbearpig, nor the great pumpkin.
Any true God would know this, and know I don't believe in infantile fantasy, it would have intentionally made me that way. If unquestioning belief in the unbelievable is what it requires, it needs to put it in me.

Oh Bobby. What did I say that's untrue? I researched, did you? I didn't just repost another unverified political smear from a 100% untrustworthy source, did you? I offered facts you can verify, did you? Seems not, since you didn't even know this is a Trump administration creation, not Biden.

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It seems one of us does have difficulty with truth, fact, and reason. I'll gladly put it to a public vote which one, I'm certain enough of the outcome. After all, only one of us believes project veritas....nuff said.

*get it?

Wow, the lack of self awareness is unbelievable.

bobknight33 said:

So full of crap. Newt

IF GOD was standing in front of you, you would still doubt his existence, even with you're dead relatives brought back to life standing there.

You cant handle the truth. A true usefull idiot you are. Perfect candidate for the democrat party.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

Trick with those, just never investigate. If you reach a conclusion, there's no more room to lie.

Wait, forget i said that.

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"been fed wild falsehoods. Because he was angry he lost an election

"There is no question, none, that president Trump is responsible for provoking and the events of the day. No question about it

"The people that stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president

"Having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole which the defeated president continued shouting into the largest megaphone on Earth.

"[He] manufactured an entire atmosphere of looming catastrophe. Increasingly wild myths about a reverse landslide election

"And I am voting to acquit
-Mitch McConnell

https://youtu.be/yxRMoqNnfvw

newtboy said:

How are those “investigations” into Hunter and the attempts to paint Joe as his partner going. Yet another failed attempt in a long list of failures by Republicans to run Biden under the nutty conspiracy bus.

Conversely, recent reports claim Jared and Ivanka milked daddy’s position for well over $650 million, mostly from foreign powers, over 4 years. Of course, you would insist on a deep investigation and include daddy Trump and all his business dealings, right? Starting with the >$30 million gift she received from China at the start of trade negotiations with China of course.



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