Just so we have a little context... I heard that joke AT LEAST 50 years ago... before jokes were had to be both funny and PC...

How old is that joke? I heard it when I was 15 or so. Sooooo,,,,, more than 50 years ago!

5) and 6) is blatant cherry picking so basically a lie

7) is interesting, while real wages are dropping, this probably means more members of a household are working than 50 years ago, when real wages for basic labor peaked.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Sorry, Bobby. 1/2 facts are no facts. No one hid Wallace's party.

Wallace was awful, but changed with his party, apologized for his intolerance and racism, and changed his tune on racial issues.



Not Trump, who at that time was busy denying blacks apartments in any of his buildings for years, even after admitting the practice and promising the government he would stop. He never apologized, and never stopped being blatantly racist.

https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case

No one, including you, believes Republicans are anti racists who embrace proud racists and Nazis and Democrats are the racists who call out racism, include other races in the party beyond token members, and shun racists and Nazis. They both switched positions 50 years ago....and you just pretend they didn't. So sad and unconvincingly intentionally ignorant, is that really the best you've got? If so, just concede now, save yourself a beating.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

How many civil rights leaders are Republicans today, Bob? How many?

You really are looking moronic, intentionally ignoring what we ALL know happened in the 60-70's. 1/2 truths, Bobby, it's the best you ever offer....1/2 truths.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Your position amounts to saying "Black people are so dumb they don't know Republicans are helping and Democrats hate them." So moronic and racist a position. It's why Trump gets 8% of the black vote....No matter how much he panders and shows off his black person at rallies.

Hilariously, this is really not about Biden vs Trump or Republicans VS Democrats, it's about Republicans VS Trump. These commercials are made by REPUBLICANS! LMFAHS!
Here's another for you....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAHz4i3_x8

Racism's racism. That's like saying "there's far less shit in this sandwich than there was 50 years ago."

It was wrong then and today.

But pulling up hate from 44 years ago and and trying to imply racism of 50 years ago is the same/ worse today is laughable.

Government policies have done more harm to blacks than anything else.

John Ehrlichman from the Nixon days. Damn near 50 years ago.

The Housing Act of 1937 Otherwise celebrated for making homeownership accessible to white people by guaranteeing their loans, which led to Redlining. RED Line property which poor neighborhoods ( poor black area) were not allow to get stimulus money.


How fare back do you want to go?

The past is the past.

For the last 50 years Blacks have gained more and more equality and today have no reason not to succeed other than Democrat policies keeping poor people poor.

I'm unsure as to what Noir is arguing against.

He makes valid points about people in poorer neighbourhoods being able to defend themselves. I mean, to me, that's a damning indictment of the failure of civil society in the US, but let's ignore that for the moment.

Almost no one is suggesting banning guns, and there are very few countries with an outright ban on firearms. But there are plenty of places with simple, sensible gun laws that have been proven to work... none of which would have any of the negative impacts Noir is talking about.

It's like arguing against speed limits by claiming people need to drive to work.

Also, the "prevent a tyrannical government" argument? Jesus, that was obsolete 100 years ago. 50 years ago, it was laughable and to suggest that any kind of armed citizen uprising could make any kind of dent in any modern military, much less the worlds biggest, is bordering on insanity.

An AR-15 isn't going to do jack shit against a tank, and you're not even going to see a predator drone coming.

But upvote and kudos to him for discussing this is in a rational manner.

Now what is the average caloric expenditure for the "average American" over the same period? I bet that in addition to the average caloric consumption going up 800/day, the average caloric expenditure went down due to a lot less people working in physical jobs now compared to 50 years ago...

It seems calories-in/calories-out would be a much simpler explanation for the "obesity epidemic" compared to eating high/low fat high/low carbs etc. etc.

I think that was covered by the bit about vanity sizing. If a store can make more money by lying to women, they have no incentive to use a system based on physical measurement.

Honestly, I think men fall victim to the same trick when our clothing sizes are based on an arbitrary scale not clearly linked to physical measurements. I bet what was sold as a "medium" men's t-shirt 50 years ago doesn't resemble what Walmart labels a medium today.

It's an issue where only government regulation could give us truth in advertising.

So many of these clips are things we all would have called sci-fi 50 years ago.

Racism became illegal 50 years ago? Where? I don't understand the conflation of racism with systems of social discrimination. One can be racist without any sort of social or government system. How else would such systems get put into place? This woman is telling me what I can and cannot see because I'm white. How the fuck would she know? So much for people being individuals.

I don't get this.

If you're lucky enough to have a job that pays you enough that you can afford a $50000 a week fine, and part of that job is to talk to the media, then do your goddamn job.

It's part of the game. The media are the reason he's paid $6 million a year, and not $150k (adj for inflation) like they were 50 years ago.

If you don't like it.... boo fucking hoo. Everyone has a part of their job they dislike. Teachers hate marking tests, programmers hate writing documentation, pilots hate filling out flight plans, etc.

I guess that is maybe the difference between 50 years ago and today. Yes The Monkees were not a band that came together organically...the members were chosen just as they would cast members of a TV show. BUT they were all musicians and singers and they were embarrassed that people thought they were fake and could not even play their instruments. While true they did not play on the first couple of albums (not because they weren't capable but because the studio didn't want them to) they DID play at their live performances and they fought the studio that hired them so that they eventually could also play on their albums.

It was important to them that the fans knew when they came to see a LIVE show that they would actually see and hear them singing and performing the songs live.

That doesn't seem to be of concern to today's pop stars.