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bareboards2 says...

That vid that kymbos sent you? He has started to lose the argument with himself and he is now disassociating himself with the activities.

Morally bankrupt.

In reply to this comment by spoco2:
Utterly, utterly amazing that he seems to think he can take the high ground.

He has all these things pre-loaded though. He knows the 'average Joe' wants more money, so he tries to play on how much Coogan has. He jumps on the rich angle as often as he can, and when he's not jumping on that, he's trying on the 'well you want publicity, you court this' bullshit too.

He has convinced himself that he is just, I'm sure he has to keep saying the mantras to himself to stop the horrible guilt from telling him otherwise, but I think he currently is winning his internal monologue and thinks that he is 'just' in what he does.

Scum.

bareboards2 says...

I disagree with your cause and effect conclusion, my friend.

You don't think that some atheists can be just as ineffective in a crisis?

I do understand your point, but the guys who moved to action could be just as fervent Christians. You don't know.

You know I agree with you about religion, right? I think many bad things have been done in its name. However, it has been with humans since we gained consciousness. It serves a purpose, or we wouldn't have it, it would have killed us off by now.

It is as all things are in life -- imperfect.



In reply to this comment by spoco2:
>> ^bareboards2:

Is there something wrong with trying to comfort one's self when you think you are going to die?
To me, this is the ONLY good thing that religion has to offer -- personal comfort. Just about everything else about religion bugs me -- but this? This is what religion was originally invented for. In my opinion.

>> ^spoco2:
Shit, could someone just knock out the woman who kept saying 'Heavenly father, jesus,jesus, jesus'... 'Thankyou Jesus'. Right there is one of the fricken reasons why blind religion is so damn dangerous. It breeds a reliance on this 'god' fellow, it makes you abscond from having belief in yourself, from being able to handle things yourself, but rather you sit and wait for your damn 'heavenly father' to save you.

Bravo to the guys who took leadership and told people to stay calm and kept everyone safe, that was taking things into your own hands and helping others. A FAR more 'christian' thing to do than just weep to your lord. Bravo, bravo.



Yeah, but what it ends up doing in a 'crisis' situation like this is turns the person into a worthless lump who is more likely to die and/or get other people killed because they have no ability to pull themselves together and help the situation.

The guys in this video who helped everyone out made a difference to all of these people. That woman, if left to her own devices may have just stood or sat somewhere wailing at her god until she was killed by the tornado.

If religion can make you unafraid of death in such a way that you are able to remove a lot of fear in a situation like this and help yourself and others, then it could be helpful, but when it makes you only capable of awaiting your 'fate', then there's a problem.

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