I hadn't seen this before. I thought Rahm was just being a Machiavellian son of a bitch when he said it.

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Really? I always assumed that's what he meant, more or less. What's the other interpretation?

Either way, I don't understand why he didn't voice this loudly and publicly when he actually was the chief of staff. Might have actually helped frame the debate rather that reflexively fighting back against right wing narrative.

He comes off very pragmatic when he talks. Unless it's purely for appearances, it lends the notion that Republicans were simply obstructionist a lot of credence.>> ^NetRunner:

I hadn't seen this before. I thought Rahm was just being a Machiavellian son of a bitch when he said it.
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>> ^RedSky:
Either way, I don't understand why he didn't voice this loudly and publicly when he actually was the chief of staff. Might have actually helped frame the debate rather that reflexively fighting back against right wing narrative.

Because then it could have just as easily been framed as "Emanuel details why a crisis is the best time to push a radical socialist agenda."

@RedSky I did rather assume it was said in a context that made it sound like he was advocating crass use of a crisis to make the other guys look bad. It fit in fine with Rahm's reputation, even on the left.

The Democratic party could stand to have at least one guy with that kind of "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" spirit, and a lot of left-wing people said Rahm was that guy.

This doesn't disprove that notion about Rahm, but it does disprove that this quote was some sort of concession by Rahm that this was the case.

Anyone here read "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" by Naomi Klein?

This is what he's talking about...look at who his audience is, this is how the two corporate parties work when a disaster happens. They make sure the people aren't there to meddle in the process and they work fast within the small window of confusion and anarchy to push through whatever corporate agenda they need to.

Anthropology professor Dr. Mark Nathan Cohen once told his students that major reforms or utilization of innovation will not take place in a regular every day society. Such innovative or drastic ideas will take place only after either of these 5 major key events have occurred beforehand, which are: famine/economic failure, natural disaster, outbreak of disease, religious conflict and political upheaval.

Basically it means that it takes a disaster for society to drastically change its course ; a time of Crisis.

Not just societies. Individuals, too. A death in the family can bring healing to those left behind. Alcoholics and other addicts sometimes finally get help after they hit bottom.

The human condition.


>> ^legacy0100:

Anthropology professor Dr. Mark Nathan Cohen once told his students that major reforms or utilization of innovation will not take place in a regular every day society. Such innovative or drastic ideas will take place only after 5 major key events have occurred beforehand, which are: famine/economic failure, natural disaster, outbreak of disease, religious conflict and political upheaval.
Basically it means that it takes a disaster for society to drastically change its course ; a time of Crisis.