31 million unemployed or working part time for economic reasons?

July 2010, not seasonally adjusted, in thousands:
U-3: 15,137
Part Time for Economic Reasons: 8,737
Marginally Attached to Labor Force: 2,622
Discouraged Workers: 1,185

That's 27,681 or 27.7 million people. So, what am I missing?

@radx nothing. If anything, you're double-counting because I think "marginally attached" includes discouraged workers.

In my googling, I couldn't find anyone substantiating the 31 million number, but it's pretty easy to add the numbers up to 25 million, which is still a whole lotta people.

i would say "dupe" but this is a much better version of
http://videosift.com/video/Time-Lapse-Visualization-of-US-Unemployment

nebraska's new state slogan - see, we're not so bad after all

@NetRunner
You are absolutely right, of course. Report says:

"Among the marginally attached, there were 1.2 million discouraged workers in July, up by 389,000 from a year earlier."

I guess it is really bad when they run out of colors...like the weather channel.

Thanks a lot Barney Frank. See what your stupid, "Uffowdable Houwsing!! We need mowe uffowdable houwsing!!" got us?

I remember sitting down with my aunt and a few other relatives late last year (around October/November 2009) and in the midst of a discussion about politics and joblessness my aunt said: "Well this is what you get for electing Obama. Things are only terrible now because we're in 'Obama's Recession.'"

At that point I flew off the handle a bit and my regular calm demeanor turned into a barrage of "How exactly?" questions with a dash of "Where do you get off?" until everyone else at the table was like "Let's just drop it ok?"

The sad part is even if she watched this, I doubt her ideas would be swayed by 'fancy, facts and statistics.'

Wow. Look at California, Oregon, & Washington at jump street. Bunch of freeloading bastards.

Get a job west coast!

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

Very interesting that it was the "flyover states" that were effected last. Don't worry the Sino-American cyberwar of 2015 will put people back to work.

@dag yeah, I was kinda surprised about how it essentially tracked with population density. Even at the beginning, the highest unemployment was where population was most highly concentrated.

>> ^NetRunner:

yeah, I was kinda surprised about how it essentially tracked with population density. Even at the beginning, the highest unemployment was where population was most highly concentrated.



The food and fuel riots of 2015 will follow this same pattern.

Alaska looks like it actually improves slightly overall.

the places where the jobs are, suffer. Duuuhhhh

Too bad this video didn't show all that economic turn around I've been hearing about. Where every other day if not every day we hear about how the unemployment rate is dropping by whole percentage points and businesses are hiring more now than ever. And then they forget to mention if they count all of the people who ran out of benefits in may/june of 2010 and may no longer be counted as unemployed if at all due to no longer being able to fill out their weekly claims.

I just found it odd that when all these people were losing access to unemployment due to congress not passing bills to extend it past the 99 weeks that our job outlook was turning around by whole percentage points on a month to month basis. I've read that there's another statistics which is usually 8 to 10% higher than the common one used that better counts underemployed and long term unemployed, but they only use the familiar statistic which right now is hovering around 10% because it's a more definite stat. And if 10% represents 23 million, then the other should represent around 50 million.

Of course 23 million, 50 million, 1 billion, or just plain old 100 doesn't really matter if the elected officials only give mouth service to the idea of helping these people out. Eventually the problem will work itself out as these people will slowly go onto other welfare and disability services and very likely remain there..... I mean whose going to hire someone who hasn't worked in an industry that requires current skills and the guy hasn't worked in 2+ years. And if someone can manage to stay mentally stable through 2 years of losing everything they own after it was decided they no longer were worthy of unemployment.....what other problems is this guy going to have when he can't get assistance from other government programs because they are so overburdened by the people who've been on it for years and the massive influx of people seeking it.

I went to a "Job Center" in Ohio for the first time last week. Showed up at 8 AM and there was already a line out the door and down the side of the building with probably 100 people there. When I left around 11 AM, there was still a line there (new people of course) but still 100 or so standing there in 90+ degrees. I still have no idea what they were there for because people inside didn't know or didn't care to answer. I went to meet for WIA (Workforce Investment Act I believe) funds to take a training course to try to open up some job possibilities, and have since been told that there are no funds available and will be no funds at least a month out from now and there's a waiting list they work their way down first. Brother just lost his marbles due to all of the stress this recession/depression is causing, and the government in their profound cost cutting wisdom has shutdown a slew of the mental health facilities in the area. So my brother was stuck in jail to keep him from killing himself where they have a major bed bug problem, so that didn't help his situation. And after a week or two of that a spot opened up in a mental health facility for evaluation which he is now undergoing.........and his caseworker went on vacation and his doctor is on vacation. So he's at the facility to be evaluated for a certain period of time, and he's already behind at least a week due to people overseeing him taking vacation. And the people act like this is a pretty common thing to happen....and all of these people end up back on the streets untreated if they don't show significant symptoms during their evaluation periods. So now my mentally ill brother has probably ran up a 20+ grand bill in tax payer money in about a month partially because they wouldn't extend unemployment to him past 99 weeks which is about 10-15 grand a year. And if they don't treat him properly (which it doesn't look like it's going to happen at this point), he'll be released and either kill himself or be back in there again and there isn't shit anyone in the family can do for him because we're all broke. And since he's an adult, no one can force him to get treatment unless he breaks the law in some way or acts up in front of the cops. It's a wonderfully *sarcasm*STRESS FREE*sarcasm* situation for all involved which will probably lead up to someone else losing their marbles in the process.

This situation is like the same situation you experience when you first enter the job market in a field that typically requires a college degree. All the companies want experience even if hiring at entry level positions with entry level wages. There's this nebulous step where people go from not having enough experience to being employed even though everything else stays the same. No one can ever seem to define what happened to overcome the experience part. Same thing with being unemployed in an employers market, you are unemployable according to anywhere you apply (underqualified, less qualified than others, not enough experience, not enough current experience, not the right degree) and one day that changes. I have always felt the employment process is more about who is the better bullshitter, if you can submit a resume with enough bullshit to get an interview and then bullshit your way through that without being caught...you stand a chance of being employed. Meanwhile if you just present the facts on your resume and don't bullshit them up, you look like a less qualified candidate compared to someone who is barely your equal and definitely not your better.

>> ^dag:

Very interesting that it was the "flyover states" that were effected last. Don't worry the Sino-American cyberwar of 2015 will put people back to work.


>> ^garmachi:

>> ^NetRunner:
yeah, I was kinda surprised about how it essentially tracked with population density. Even at the beginning, the highest unemployment was where population was most highly concentrated.


The food and fuel riots of 2015 will follow this same pattern.


You guys are all optimistic. Didn't you listen to the Mayans? It all goes down in 2012.

Keep in mind that this doesn't take into account the self employed who lost their work or their business, which I would have to assume is pretty high. Self employed aren't entitled to unemployment. I was self employed but then was lucky enough to work for someone else right before the recession because when I got permanently laid off I was able to collect unemployment. Not the full amount though. For some reason I was cut off at 81 weeks, and nobody can explain why.

I can't claim unemployment, I can't find a job even though I'm highly experienced as a telecom engineer (ran my own company, also was in charge of engineering departments for other big companies). I ran a sideline business building and troubleshooting computers and installing networks, etc. since 1995 and still have a few clients who I service their networks.

I've applied to telecom related jobs across the country for two years now. Either I'm over qualified or since I've ONLY engineered like 35 different systems and they want me to have experience on only ONE system and one which I haven't worked with (same technology, same connections, same just with a different name) then apparently I'm no good. I guess they don't want to have to pay me for the few hours it would take me to learn this system.

I've applied to IT related positions. Here's how it always goes:
Interviewer: You have experience with Lotus notes?
Me: I'm familiar but haven't had clients who used it. All my clients used microsoft email software.
Interviewer: We have a custom built database application.
Me: Oh good, I've built custom database applications using Microsoft SQL server and access databases.
Interviewer: Oh, well ours is custom, do you know how to use it?
Me: Well if it's a database driven program, I'm sure I could pick it up in a matter of minutes.

Seriously, they want someone off the streets to know their proprietary shit without any training? Or they don't understand that every email system is set up the same with the settings in slightly different places and a few different options.

My theory, the brain dead employers don't want to hire someone under them who have more skill, knowledge and experience. Regardless that you are willing to work for their measly offering wages.