Rachel Maddow: Why Fox News Isn't News

Rachel Maddow points out what has been largely overlooked in the discussion of the White House feud with Fox News, that explains why Fox is not news.
choggiesays...

and whhhhy Rachel, is YOUR outlet for the dissemination of contrived, diversional clap-trap news???

Is it because of your smug delivery or mannish affectations?? Is it because your writers are similar but not the same cunts as Foxs' writers? Is it your ephemeral cologne or collection of grooming accoutrement? WHY? Answer this RM....What the fuck exactly, IS the news??..Hmmmmm?

longdesays...

A valid question, but any significant viewing of both channels ought to show you why one is much further from the ideal of an objective source of news than the other.

>> ^choggie:
and whhhhy Rachel, is YOUR outlet for the dissemination of contrived, diversional clap-trap news???
Is it because of your smug delivery or mannish affectations?? Is it because your writers are similar but not the same cunts as Foxs' writers? Is it your ephemeral cologne or collection of grooming accoutrement? WHY? Answer this RM....What the fuck exactly, IS the news??..Hmmmmm?

KnivesOutsays...

Rachel is a journalist that uses facts to demonstrate the "truth" as she sees it. The usage of facts is what delineates Rachel Maddow from the talking heads at Fox.

It's a pretty clear distinction.

oxdottirsays...

Do you people know how many more men you have here than women? Do you think the upsurge in using cunt as an insult makes us feel more at home? I bet there are theses to be written about how there is no name for male genitalia as insulting as that word. You all say what you want, whenever you want, but I suspect I'm not the only person here who automatically thinks less of people who throw around terms like "news cunt" and "punch you in the cunt" and such.

NOTE: I am NOT saying I think less of someone for not liking MSNBC or liking FOX more, or thinking FOX's approach to news is brave or whatever. I don't agree with such opinions, but it doesn't make me automatically think less of the opinion-giver.

MaxWildersays...

oxdottir, I strongly recommend ignoring choggie. The above comment is completely typical of his prolific writings. Some people find him entertaining, but for the most part it is simply a vulgar assault on the English language and trolling.

In the above post, he missed the entire point about organizing political rallies, he insulted Rachel specifically, lesbians specifically, and women in general.

Ignore, ignore, ignore.

gwiz665says...

Punch us in the balls, why don't you?

>> ^oxdottir:
Do you people know how many more men you have here than women? Do you think the upsurge in using cunt as an insult makes us feel more at home? I bet there are theses to be written about how there is no name for male genitalia as insulting as that word. You all say what you want, whenever you want, but I suspect I'm not the only person here who automatically thinks less of people who throw around terms like "news cunt" and "punch you in the cunt" and such.
NOTE: I am NOT saying I think less of someone for not liking MSNBC or liking FOX more, or thinking FOX's approach to news is brave or whatever. I don't agree with such opinions, but it doesn't make me automatically think less of the opinion-giver.

choggiesays...

Know your etiology before playing the *familiar cards *(perception-based misunderstanding, gender bias, homophobia, hate, etc., ad nauseum) CUNT-Ask a Brit, wankers. By association with a major news organization, Rachel lacks credibility in the choggie book. She is there to tickle the pseudo-intellect of 20-30 somethings, AS A DIVERSION! Choggie has a particular hatred for the NEWS MEDIA-choggie has a bachelor's in R/TV Communications. He has worked hard to dispel the rumored significance of twits like RM, and all of them who nightly take your minds away from what actually matters.

F0x vs.Others
Black over white
One president or party vs. the other president or party
God or No god

See how fucking delusional most folks have become struggling with the dualistic approach to life? It's made some folks quite fucking irritating and boorishly predictable. Once again, for the cheap seats:

ALL MEDIA FROM THESE WANKERS IS SHEIT, DIVERSION, DECEIT AND CONFABULATION. WE WANT TO KILL IT WHEN WE SEE IT, BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE DETOXIFIED, HEALED OR ALTERED TO CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHERE THE PLANET IS HEADED. KILL THEM ALL, THEN REBUILD ON THE ASHES....Without fucking televisions.



Ok ok, some folks missed the point altogether-Part of the work of being here I suppose. True, choggie abuses language and grammar-True, choggie's wild hairs include a once a day or so, affirmation of his solid principles and ethics regarding the state of journalism extant; Putrefied. A death-row inmate, in need of execution.

What makes a Troll? Can it not be someone's smug affirmations of their own inability to see bullshit for bullshit's sake....in the form of demonization of someone else's viewpoint through constant re-affirmations of their broken-record of a program?? You are wrong, oxdottir. A classic example of reaction over response. It takes but a simple, flaming word to light the roof of an innocent in the village conquered by assholes. The issue here is not choggie's OBVIOUS (capitalized for sarcastic effect) disdain for homosexuals, females, etc etc ad nauseum esq....The issue is choggie fucking hates diversion, hates the fucking news-heads, wherever they rear their fucking cakeholes for profit and disinformation/non-information.

News is Non-news, no matter how passionate one is about one issue or another-Why trade whiskey for Gin?.....Case in point-TYT a favorite of some folks here--Self-important, smug little twits who think their editorializing makes a fuck of a difference save that of building a fan-base of wankers like themselves...Hate that shit, justifiably so.

Please.....talk to James Joyce about grammar, bitches!

oxdottirsays...

I don't mean to demonize Choggie. I know he's colorful. I'm disappointed, but not gobsmacked. If he had been the only one using the term in question lately, I wouldn't have posted.

I'm glad I posted, because I have found the reassurance I have gotten about that word and its popularity reassuring. SO thanks, sifters.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

I love how choggie casually mentions he has a 'bachelor's degree in communications' as if that somehow imbues his rambling old coot routine with some kind of official importance. Silly choggie, I only let grad students tell me what to think.

MaxWildersays...

Ya know, choggie, if you bothered to take two seconds to state your opinion in a clear and concise manner, people might be enlightened. But no, you wander through these virtual rooms, wild-haired and smelling of shite, mumbling and rambling incoherent obscenities. We see in the post above that you can write meaningful sentences if you choose to, which makes the other garbage all the more despicable.

If you are not here to share your opinions with people, (and your opinion about the usefulness of non-news distractions is completely valid) then why the fuck are you here? Are you just venting? Or are the rest of us supposed to wade through your typewritten spew in search of your true meaning?

choggiesays...

Yes, i have a particular disdain for all things recognized as legitimate media.

Those who would contribute to the field with a view to offering an alternative have their hands tied by the very types of people I tend to despise-Those folks who hide behind semantic exactitude when the foundations of their preconceived and programmed ideas and perceptions are challenged-Those who would rather tattle than deal, sue than succeed. Those who would project their clouded visions of a perfect world upon the masses.

^What the hell is this "contribution" to the Videosift bucket of mud other than someone who, trying to be popular and clever, litters the place with THIS viewpoint over THAT viewpoint? Fox over some other bereft, anemic news organization. The codex for the World's Media system offered to monkeys is "What distracts from the truth and sells the most plastic bullshit?"....nothing to do with truths, but half-truths. Little to do with usable information, useless rather. If it's not some bullshit about REP vs. DEM, it's who got killed, where and how.

I am sorry if I offended anyone with crude language to make a point, and apologies for using a colloquial term that only Brits aren't offended by. Shall I forgive Rachel Maddow for her continued suckling at the teat of her employer? I don't blame her for being just another talking, worthless head, the monies' probably pretty good. She has not ethic or morality beyond that of her own success and popularity. I can't stand her fucking smugness, her tone, her goddamn delivery or the soapbox she feels most comfortable upon....
THAT OF BAITING THE MONKEYS WHO THINK SHE HAS A FUCKING CLUE! Whore of Babylon bitch, like all the other, male or female, hetero or not, news assholes. Hate the other assholes and their pulpits as well, right, left, black, white, etc. There is no objectivity left in journalism, if there ever was any in the first place.

MaxWilder? Your observations serve only to satisfy your perceptions and to conveniently label undesirables. Re-read the comment I made, and you may find that you do not have the information you needed to make your statement T,F,or M.

MW You assume I watched the damn video for starters. You assume I attacked her because of her gender or sexuality, the latter I am taking your word for, because I don't know or could care less. If I had the power, I would downvote it. For what reason??...without watching the thing?? How about title. How about the site is littered with newscast blurbs that suit the majority? How about I can downvote for whatever reason I choose, as long as it does not violate sift guidelines.

How about....I am just as tired of seeing RM's face on the sift as I am seeing Rush Lamebrain, kittenz, members of the Atheist fan-club, or people being"PWND"!

For fucks' sake, can't you people see that the television news is an abortion, a carcinoma??

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

What is the truth, choggie? And what are we being distracted from? I'm not challenging you or disagreeing, just trying to get a fix on your elusive opinion. Sorry about the BA jab, it just seemed funny to me that an iconoclast such as yourself felt the need to drop his institutional credentials.

MaxWildersays...

Oh, I see. Downvote without watching. Curse-laden high philosophy rants in the comments without watching. Because you already have formulated your opinions, and nothing you see might affect them.

Well, I suppose I can relate, because nothing you say will be affecting my opinions from now on. I'm done. Ignored.

choggiesays...

Naw MW, my opinion is that you DON'T see, and ya don't respond rather, you react. Case in point, the message I sent to you on your profile which is public for restrictions not my own, the same restrictions soon to be discarded. I approached you attempting to explain my motivations rather, by singling-out a comment of yours on this thread, that publicly and rather smugly, poo-poohs my observations and manner. Can't slight ya for the offense to my manner and could give a giggity-goddamn-....CAN if you attack me with a view to putting a feather in yer clever-cap...as do all other users with the same manner.

Such is the nature of the freedom of speech with a view to enlightenment or otherwise, such is the nature of the website I enjoy to be a part of.

Dude...My opinions are like my asshole. I got one like everyone else and it's dear to me. On the contrary to yer insights...EVERYTHING I SEE AFFECTS ME. Be it a screen-shot, a title, a mood, turn of phrase, or another's particular take on something I've seen before...EVERYTHING. To deny that anyone you know is the same, would be like lying when describing your own fantasies to another.

Ignore is an illusion as well. who can ignore the voyeur?? Who can ignore a naked human in public? Who can ignore hunger? A better man than I, that's fer sure....

HaricotVertsays...

People shouldn't watch Fox News simply because they have a habitual tendency to report lies.

People watch Fox News to hear something they agree with - to vindicate their beliefs of what the news should be, not as it is. Maddow is right that Fox is welcome to express their opinions, but when they report opinions as if they are facts, or they conduct belligerent interviews where they tell people to "SHUT UP!" or cut off their mikes - they cannot say there is a "war on Fox" when people start pointing out the unprofessionalism of their ways.

Real news does not pander to an audience, in any way, shape, or form. That at least is one consistency among news anchors thatarenotedforimpartiality.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

Come on choggie, there must be at least one person or book you could point to as being at least vaguely representative of your politics. Is it really that unreasonable of me to ask if there is any cattle behind the big hat? If I had to guess, I'd say you were of the freemason/illuminati school of politics.

Your business is your business, so if you don't want to show your cards, I won't bug you about it anymore.

EndAllsays...

I'd say you were of the freemason/illuminati school of politics.

What's that?

I kinda agree with him. I'm sick of everyone feeding the FOX news troll, RM here included. They rely on your attention -- don't give them it. Is it really that difficult?

choggiesays...

Hmmm. Lessse dystopiaufrtdy, Pat Condell needs a spot on the BBC's nightly wank. Deek Jackson has his own news channel on YouTube called FKKN News-My vote is for Deek to replace all media news outlets' collective hoo-ha, and for everyone to get Telescreens™ that can't be turned off, only down.

24/7 deprogramming is the only way to undo what has been done to nations of the television addicted-That and bring back hard copys' popularity....The public library needs a revamp-Fettish librarians, BYOBBB, and hooka lounges....and a ventilation chamber for homeless folks.

oxdottirsays...

>> ^quantumushroom:
Dear Rachel:
FOX questions the authority and in some cases, the sanity of this corrupt, clueless administration while you and your cronies blindly follow Hopey the Changeling. Your ratings reflect this. Fin.


Instead of two years ago, when Fox questioned the sanity and patriotism of anyone who questioned the then current administration. This makes so much more sense.

KnivesOutsays...

>> ^oxdottir:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Dear Rachel:
FOX questions the authority and in some cases, the sanity of this corrupt, clueless administration while you and your cronies blindly follow Hopey the Changeling. Your ratings reflect this. Fin.

Instead of two years ago, when Fox questioned the sanity and patriotism of anyone who questioned the then current administration. This makes so much more sense.


He's a broken record. Why do you bother? This is someone who takes shit from WorldNetDaily seriously... Seriously? He's certifiable.

Jonsiesays...

Fox News may not the bastion of news integrity, but if I were Maddow I wouldn't exactly be calling them out. I've seen my share of terrible work, bias, and sleeping on the job from all the cable news networks. One of my 'favorites' is the Campbell Brown interview of former Governor Jesse Ventura (YouTube vids were pulled ). In comparison to the anchors mentioned by HaricotVert these new guys are, IHMO, a joke.

I've seen enough information (and not from FOX) that imply a great deal of shenanigans going on behind the scenes of Obama's administration. So where is the hard hitting investigative journalism? I tuned in one day (no doubt in a fit of insanity) to find CNN discussing Michelle Obama's White House garden and the plant breakdown. A garden... I think my new favorite clip is Arianna Huffington & Ben Stein asking Wolf Blitzer: WTF is up with you guys covering this Ballon Boy all day? You know there's actually serious shit happening right now (note: i paraphrased a bit there)

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

>> ^choggie:
Hmmm. Lessse dystopiaufrtdy, Pat Condell needs a spot on the BBC's nightly wank. Deek Jackson has his own news channel on YouTube called FKKN News-My vote is for Deek to replace all media news outlets' collective hoo-ha, and for everyone to get Telescreens™ that can't be turned off, only down.
24/7 deprogramming is the only way to undo what has been done to nations of the television addicted-That and bring back hard copys' popularity....The public library needs a revamp-Fettish librarians, BYOBBB, and hooka lounges....and a ventilation chamber for homeless folks.


I sense this is about as close as I get before the choggie parabola swings wide again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Lfl2j7ahE - Very funny, and similarly riding that fine line between the serious and self-parody.

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