Public School Fail: Tomato or Potato?

I watched this show the other day and about fell over. What kills me the most about this isn't just that the children aren't being taught to identify basic foods but how happy the teacher appears as all the kids routinely miscategorize them.

In fairness, I'm sure the parts where the kids named the items correctly were removed.

This is from Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution. Full episodes available on Hulu.
KnivesOutsays...

I don't know, looks staged to me. What's the agenda here? Make kindergarteners look stupid and Jamie Oliver look smart? He's a professional cook, of course he knows what an egg-plant is. Very fake.

KnivesOutsays...

Looks like someone here is on the Jamie Oliver protection force. Why are you covering up for Jamie Oliver? I'm just asking a simple question, and you fucking jump down my throat. What a douche.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

I'm sure these kids could easily differentiate between Cheetos and Doritos, Skittles and M&Ms or Coke and Sprite. It's disturbing to see the kinds of foods that are marketed to kids these days, and even more disturbing to see parents fall prey to this marketing. There should be some kind of a public service effort (like the successful campaign against smoking) to teach parents the importance of encouraging good eating habits - keep all that junk food out of the house. It could save a lot of people a lot of grief from obesity, heart disease and other maladies in the long run.

I'm not sure why it would be the fault of public schools that these kids don't know what a vegetable is. Are parents no longer accountable for anything? A teacher can only do so much, you can't expect them to also be a parent.

I'd upvote this if it weren't for the goofy politicized title. Don't get so caught up in the horse race that it obscures the bigger picture.

blankfistsays...

@dystopianfuturetoday. I agree with you. I know the politicized title may turn some off, and I can understand. I do actually blame the parents, as well. But, it certainly is a public school fail because the whole purpose of school is to teach the basics, and identifying vegetables is pretty base.

We do need healthier options for school kids. If we're paying for it, then a balanced diet should consist of more than just pizza and french fries. But these failures are from the USDA guidelines that say pizza and french fries qualifies as proper servings of protein, bread and vegetables. You want someone to blame? Blame the government for that!

spawnflaggersays...

seriously though- who eats whole radishes and eggplant ?

I can think of about 2 recipes which actually call for fresh whole eggplant, and neither one of them would be popular in England (unless at a foreign-food restaurant, where even if parents brought kids there, they wouldn't see how the food was prepared).

I bet first graders who live on farms and eat only orgranic food still wouldn't be able to identify half the veggies on that table. (they would get the stuff he held up and asked about though)

Xaxsays...

Kids should know most of these vegetables before they hit school... but if not before school, I would certainly expect them to learn about them in school. Sure, things like radishes and eggplant I could understand, but potatoes and tomatoes? Terrible. I don't find this hard to believe; the show takes place in one of the unhealthiest cities in America, after all.

Kreegathsays...

I'm fairly certain that the situation wasn't helped by moving in a camera crew and shoving a camera up the kids' noses. Stuff like that makes youngsters shy, uncertain and unwilling to answer questions. Jamie Oliver's hectic, stressful behaviourisms surely doesn't inject confidence in them either.
That's not to say the children aren't familiar with vegetables, just pointing out that there's alot of additional explanations for why they don't seem to know what that stuff is.

Yogisays...

>> ^KnivesOut:

Looks like someone here is on the Jamie Oliver protection force. Why are you covering up for Jamie Oliver? I'm just asking a simple question, and you fucking jump down my throat. What a douche.


Yes I'm just asking if your mother could possibly be a whore. I mean I've heard she has sex for money I just find it interesting in a leading sort of a way.

lampishthingsays...

That reason TV video is a lot of BS. Kids eating healthier is good for everyone. The kids have more energy and are happier. If they keep up the healthy eating they'll be happier, healthier, more energetic adults. happy + healthy => more productive, innovative, energetic => greater economic value to the nation. Feed them well while they're young and you can buy bigger guns in the future.

Fresh fruits and vegetables ARE better for you. The fresher the plant the more the beneficial chemicals haven't been destroyed in wastage. The longer an apple is uneaten the closer it is to bad. Can anyone argue that a bad apple is better for you?

Finally, if you get the kids to like locally produced produce it will benefit the economy locally and nationally as opposed to fast food sourced abroad.

I wonder who the hell that woman was working for. She seemed sneaky.

Kreegathsays...

In my workplace we've allocated part of the school budget to buy fresh fruit for the students to eat during breaks and lunch. It might not be tastiest of apples, pears and oranges, and it's taken several generations of students for the fruitcart to become a natural part of everyday school life, but the reward is definately worth it.

Sketchsays...

I get what people are saying about having the kids eat what they would want to eat if it gives them their government regulated proteins and "vegetables" and such, but does that really mean that the only option is all of this pre-processed, industrialized crap? Do we really need to be injecting them with the extra fats, ubiquitous extra corn syrup, and whatever Potasium Hydroxydinitromineglucinate on a (sometimes twice) daily basis?

We can still be producing the foods that they want to eat in a controlled and far healthier manner if we were just willing to put in the money and effort to make it from fresh. Oh, and cut down on our future health care costs in the meantime.

blankfistsays...

>> ^marinara:

kudos to blankfist for posting anti-libertarian stuff.
Observehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCcHVagMMCc&playnext_
from=TL&videos=57tPHzOm0JI


I was going to post that video, too. A lot of what they say in that vid I tend to agree with. I certainly agree that Jamie Oliver seems to completely overlook the failings of the government in the role of public school nutrition. I remember eating pizza and fries for school lunches and that's just bad any way you slice it, but that was considered healthy by government standards.

Nutritious foods for kids are important.

entr0pysays...

Also fresh vegetable are more expensive, have a shorter shelf life, usually have to be prepared, and kids are less likely to want to eat them. Not that any of that excuses feeding your kids junk, but those are some of the bigger reasons than marketing.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

I'm sure these kids could easily differentiate between Cheetos and Doritos, Skittles and M&Ms or Coke and Sprite. It's disturbing to see the kinds of foods that are marketed to kids these days, and even more disturbing to see parents fall prey to this marketing.

ryanbennittsays...

I'm probably being paranoid, but in only two shots did you see the vegetable and the child saying wrong name. The first was broccoli-cauliflower, which is a pretty good guess as they're both in the cabbage family, the second was pear-eggplant. All other occasions, they cut to a different shot or could have dubbed audio over as you couldn't see the child or Jamie actually talking. There again, this is abc, not fox.

Fjnbksays...

I went to public school, but I learned about fruits and vegetables from home. In all fairness, the teacher probably expected her students to already know what tomatoes were.

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