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Kirk Cameron on the O'Reilly Factor

aaronfr posted the Christian vs Atheist debate recently. The debate aspect is interesting, now Bill O'Reilly and Kirk Cameron give each other high fives and spend 5 minutes bashing science and alternative philosophies to Christianity.. like Atheism.
gluoniumsays...

It's always amazing how many "former atheists" somehow magically turn into whacked out fundamentalist nuts after just the slightest snort of Jesus dust isn't it? Of course it's much more likely that virtually all these bible thumping "former atheists" in fact, never were. That is, they may've not been particularly religious before, but they almost certainly never gave any credible serious thought to the question of the existance of deities or religions or conversely, how to think skeptically. In any case, a religious fundamentalist's definition of "atheist" seems likely to include anyone who doesn't pray at least 8 times a day, go door to door on weekends converting the heathens and neglects sending their kid to Jesus camp.

budzossays...

"This is so simple a child could understand it."

And only a child would believe it.

"You don't find one of these" (produces photoshop image) ... "A croco-duck!"

Well, ya got me there Kirk. There are no croco-ducks. Therefore, god exists. I succumb to your brilliant and impenetrable logic.

rickegeesays...

If you haven't visited Kirk's Way of the Master website, then you have deprived yourself of hours of mirth and enjoyment.

I like to believe that Kirk Cameron was like this even on Growing Pains. And Alan Thicke and Tracey Gold were quietly steaming and wishing that he would shut up about the Jesus.

joedirtsays...

LOL!! did BillO really just say "Sun rises and sets" "tides come in, tides go out"... as proof of God?

That has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard on TV.. We are literally back to the 1500s. Does BillO understand the Earth actually orbits the Sun? And that by the rotation of the Earth, causes the Sun to be visible for part of the day????

Also, the moon orbits the Earth and the gravity pulls on the ocean's water mass causing tides.

So, I should worship Gravity the real big-"G"

rickegeesays...

Kirk has the Dawkins camp with that croco-duck picture, though. Explain the absence of a croco-duck with your silly natural selection, Darwin.

I like how O'Reilly works in the fair and balanced "bad religions" like radical Islam at the end, too. Atheism=Jihadism.

Setting aside the fundamental distrust and blind disdain for scientific method evinced by Comfort/Cameron and making the leap that theism is truth, I would ask "Why monotheism?"

That camera was built by a number of hands, most commercial and revered works of art are the work of a crew of persons, man and a woman had a little baby--there were three in the family, and that's a magic number, even the 'Say Say Say' show of Comfort/Cameron is a creation of many people.

Gotta go get some work done before God drags the sun away . . .


mdhsays...

Oh boy. First of all, Bill came nowhere near beating Dawkins in their little debate. Dawkins talked Bill into a blunder saying that truth is subjective. Secondly, Buddhists don't believe in Buddha the way Muslims believe in Allah. Get your shit straight Bill.

Fluosays...

That just made me want to rip my eyes out. They don't even understand evolution. They think they do and they think evolution "just happened". Kind of scary alot of them at how dumb they really are.

NickyPsays...

If god created the eye, then why did he/she/it put a blood vessel in front of the retina. Bit of a design flaw maybe? If god's design is perfect then why do humans suffer from back pain? Maybe an evolutionary mishap, or punishment for the original sin we are all born with.

Seriously though. If you do not know how the eye works, how can you claim you know something made it. This guy is an actor, not a biologist

qruelsays...

I would have thought this video hilarious, except that the majority of peeps in this country buy into this shit hook line and sinker. I wish our schools taught critical thinking skills so there would be less of these idiots. I love how they talk in generalities about "GOD", as in "there must be a designer, so that prooves that "GOD" exists". But yet, he is explicity refering only to "his" "god". And since when is evolution an "alternative" to god ? That makes no sense. why is this has been idiot even on tv ? Also, Kirk misquoted Einstien for his own agenda. Einstein did not believe in a personal god. Ha ! Bill O saying, "his faith derives from reason". That is classic !
Our lame society and media have enabled these wackos as having a valid viewpoint.

bamdrewsays...

kirk cameron rules. i'm gonna start carrying around huge prints of photoshopped animals and then whip them out during debates to make my point.

'... the point you're making, Frank, reminds me of the hipposhark (*whip-out-image*) a nonsensical and made-up creature that is exactly analogous to your ridiculous point! PWNED'

djsunkidsays...

fucking fuck fuck. the EYE? AGAIN?! like, really? Fucking creationists- transitional species and the stupid fucking eye arguments are SO FUCKING DEBUNKED.

Seriously! Like, you lost the transitional species argument like, over a hundred years ago. And the eye has been shown to be able to develop in something like 10 small, incrementally improving steps. From a small patch of light sensitive skin.

*sigh*

Will somebody PLEASE tell the fundies that evolution is the very OPPOSITE of "by chance"? That the "designer" that they are looking for is natural selection? Thanks.

Until then, please STFU.

guh!

krumzysays...

I cant stand the complexity of the eye explanation. Throwing all science out the window and stooping to the 'logic' that these people use, if there was a 'designer' then there would be one right solution to the whole vision problem; one eye that every creature would use to navigate around its surroundings. But thats not the case in nature, echolocation vs. night vision or even the differences in the eye of a cat vs the human eye throws a wrench in the works.

Every time the ignorant invoke god's name as the final answer it reminds me or this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lksijM-CcfU ) simpsons episode.

choggiesays...

Get a room please....even snake-handling preachers have their own trailer converted into a church....Why beat the horse, when understanding the nature of the beast is the best way to navigate.


To you creationists: Dig,.. however it happens, ye will either know or not one day, and by then, yer ass is in heaven, hell, purgatory or New Jersey-but not on planet here...

To the Evolutionists: You came from a cell, and now yer in hell, surrounded by pitiful, weak-minded shells. Ohhhh this terrible thing, that others can't think as I do.....yeah yeah, could give a fuck why or who you feel sorry for, or what the hell you think is best for the world.....believe it or not, we will all be on the same page, when the shit hits the fan, and this civilization, goes the way of the last gadjillion......

And to all the fans of O'Reilly and computties:(this includes the fans who post that shit here to deride and smugly tatter-on about it)-That's Infotainment-the new version of newspeak, mind control, and propaganda......welcome to the de-evolved world of the real!!!

CaptainPlanet420says...

"And to all the fans of O'Reilly and computties:(this includes the fans who post that shit here to deride and smugly tatter-on about it)-That's Infotainment-the new version of newspeak, mind control, and propaganda......welcome to the de-evolved world of the real!!!"

methinks you're stealing someone's term paper to find phrases like that

BillOreillysays...

"I cant stand the complexity of the eye explanation. Throwing all science out the window and stooping to the 'logic' that these people use, if there was a 'designer' then there would be one right solution to the whole vision problem; one eye that every creature would use to navigate around its surroundings."

That's as absurd as saying that one musician should write one song that should work for all occasions. I don't think "Someday" by Mariah Carey would work for a professional wrestler's intro music, and I sure don't want to hear "Genie in a Bottle" by Xtina at my best friend's funeral...

bluecliffsays...

the problem with creationism is that it's a retarded doctrine by christian standards, it's almost neopaganism, half-baked gnosticism for sure. That you can PROVE that God exists is utter heresy, utter. (and not the good, "I have my own way" heresy).

bigbikemansays...

Ok, I've changed my mind.

I now believe there is a god, because natural selection cannot explain the fact that I am now watching both Bill O'Reilly and Kirk Cameron AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME trying to explain that there is scientific proof that there is a god. Oi vay.

Obviously this could not have happened unless there was a designer behind my torment. Pain this exquisite does not happen by chance. It was *designed*. By who? Satan, that's who. And there is no satan without god, ergo....

All I can say is:
Is that you God? It's me, Margaret.
Make it stop please.

Amen

Zonbiesays...

So thr arguement is "If it is complicated, then Magic Man in the sky/flying spaghetti monster did it"

Great, well, I am fucking converted...

Oh and on the "Croco-duck" Let me find that video...

therealblankmansays...

I had crocoduck for dinner last night, it was delicious. Very crispy skin with edible scales, a spicy orange-ginger glaze. Bert Parks was the emcee at the dinner- man that guy's got a great voice.

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