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14 Comments
siftbotsays...The thumbnail image for this video has been updated - thumbnail added by eric3579.
ChaosEnginesays...Really? I disagree. Israel has lost the media war on this one.
Maybe it's a US only thing, but at this point I honestly believe I've heard more media coverage of how the media isn't covering the conflict than I have actual coverage of the conflict, and what stories I have seen have been centred around Israel being dicks.
Fairbssays...The video's not working for me. Just goes to a black screen.
I was able to find it here... http://www.mediaite.com/online/jeremy-scahill-media-has-failed-to-cover-massive-massacre-in-gaza/
Yogisays...I think it's shifting, but if you're in the US and you work and you just have time to watch the nightly news, it's nearly all Israel. They've got the time to make their arguments, they've got the support of the major networks. Now if you actually work at it, you get a bit more nuanced of a view but it's without the information of the last 40 years.
There's a lot of meat to this story and it goes back a long long time. Not a lot of people have the time to do a complete research project on it. Heck I've read a ton on the subject, I still can't remember all the happenings and goings on, I have trouble citing decisions and actions taken by either side.
While now currently in this conflict it seems that Israel is starting to lose around the world but that's not important. The countries around the world have already voted to stop this nonsense and get to a two state solution already. The US and Israel are the only ones who refuse, and Israel would immediately drop it if they didn't have the support of the most powerful nation on earth.
I hope you're right though that the tide is going to turn, and that US citizens (lets face it the only people who really matter ) are going to see the reality.
Really? I disagree. Israel has lost the media war on this one.
Maybe it's a US only thing, but at this point I honestly believe I've heard more media coverage of how the media isn't covering the conflict than I have actual coverage of the conflict, and what stories I have seen have been centred around Israel being dicks.
LarryASingletonsays...The only thing that gives me hope is that sometimes people see the light:
Absolutely Uncertain (You Tube video by “Irina”)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgvMGLdc908&list=PLC2A32D103123C08E#t=73
18-minute mini-documentary follows the journey of Irina, a 23-year-old liberal, Jewish New Yorker who voted for Obama in 2008
Why I'm burning my last bridge with Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMnIh10po0
Join me as I wreck my last artifact of support for the war criminal-in-chief!! *I figured out the fraud a while back, but recently found this shirt in my closet
The problem with this country is it doesn't read. It doesn't inform itself on the issues. I'd probably still be a major nigger hating racist if it wasn't for books. If you want the skinny on that go to my Facebook Notes and read my "Racism Speech" which really isn't a speech so much as it is part of my memoirs to my two boys.
I wasn't really into this Islam thing until I happened to read The Haj by Leon Uris and Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabrielle almost back to back. I'll submit the following to give you an idea of what happened.
“we may describe it, (jihad), as a surgeon's lancet and not a butcher's knife.” Mahmoud Mohammed Taha (I'm sure there are about 200 million dead people that would disagree with him. And this from the guy who's been called the Mahatma Ghandi of Islam.)
About two years ago I ordered some reading material, including Taha's "Second Message", and a “study” Koran to find out what this "Islam thing" was all about. When I was sixteen I was chanting nam yo ho renge kyo to a piece of paper, (gahonzen?), having NO idea what I was doing. A few years later, hair down to my ass and a knapsack on my back, I hitchhiked cross country, got saved in Nashville Tenn. and went to live on a Christian farm in Mansfield Ohio. (Not the prison.) My gra'mom called me a "seeker". As I said, there came a time when I wanted to understand this "religion of peace". It was Humaid's article on jihad I found in my Summarized Bukhari that decided “things” for me.
If Islam is the “religion of peace”, where in Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid's article on jihad can I find the equivalent of “Love Thy Neighbor” and “good will toward men”? And explain its prominence, and significance almost as an “Introduction”, in a book that's described as “the most authentic and true among the books of the Prophet”: My Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari. Also address “jihad” as it's defined in Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. (Chapter O-9.0: Jihad O: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.” And explain why the “greater” jihad is only mentioned once here and never seen again in this “Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”.)
Compare Humaid's “jihad” and Emmet Fox' Sermon on the Mount and tell me which one best represents a spirit of Love and “compassion”.
Lastly; would you pick Sheikh bin Humaid to sit on a Human Rights Commission? (That's a trick question by the way.)
Maybe you can throw in an explanation of the Jews are “monkeys, pigs and rats” on page 656 and the part where Mo says, “if somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him” on page 613 in the chapter on Jihad.
Also, explain why Humaid's “jihad” shouldn't be “Exhibit A” in refuting the “religion of peace” claim.
I've posted this many times to many Muslims and have yet to get a single response. Well, I did receive a response from some goofball named “Dr.” Mohsen El-Guindy asking me to read his books. Instead I downloaded a bunch of his articles. Which were pure rants. An Imam, sidestepped it by telling me I had to “study Islam” to gain a greater understanding.
Jihad in the Qur'an and Sunnah by 'Sheikh Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid
ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?233460-Jihad-in-the-Qur-an-and-Sunnah&s=4df3fc2e4e0596eb3b38115ef4b8f506 ),
Subscribe to Jihad/Campus Watch and the Middle East Forum/Quarterly, Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Gatestone Institue, FrontPage Magazine, American Thinker,The Clarion Project, Cross Muslims: Muhammad unveiled, Religion of Peace (dot com) and read Raymond Ibrahim, Efraim Karsh, Patrick Poole, Caroline Glick, Bat Ye'or and others.
“She's Buried Chest High”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdy5Fwwfzg
“An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last. Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance.” Winston Churchill
“What the horn is to the rhinoceros, what the sting is to the wasp, the Mohammedan faith is to the Arabs of the Sudan-a faculty of offence. All the warlike operations of Mohammedan peoples are characterised by fanatacism” Winston Churchill
“While Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Parsees and Jews, along with several million adherents of an animistic religion, all coexisted in relative harmony, one religion that would not accept compromise stood out from the rest: Islam.” Mahatma Gandhi
LarryASingletonsays...99.9% of the knuckleheads commenting here negatively about Israel have never read, let alone heard of, books like Andrew Bostom's Legacy of Jihad and Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism. Or From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters. Or a book I just started, A Lethal Obsession by Robert Wistrich. Thing is I'm one of these "hope springs eternal" guys because I keep thinking people are like me who was once about as close to being a card carrying member of the KKK as you can be without actually being one. Until I read some books like Malcolm X. Black Like Me and others. While I was in Jr. High getting jumped by black kids trying to punch and stomp my guts out. The useful idiots limit this "conflict" to simply Muslims against Jews yet its a lot more profound than that:
Supplemental Article “The First and Last Enemy: Jew Hatred in Islam.” by Bostom (Frontpage Magazine archive)
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28549
People just refuse to acknowledge the Jew-Hatred that is part of a Muslims DNA. Don't believe what those Interfaith frauds tell you. "Moderate" or not; if you don't hate Jews you're not a true Muslim. If you don't believe that please explain the hatred that is like a disease in Gaza. And if you have half a brain you know it's been there LONG before Israel won its Independence.
The Depravity of the Homicide Bomber’s Recruiters (Frontpage Magazine)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2011/david-meir-levi/the-depravity-of-the-homicide-bomber%E2%80%99s-recruiters/
Female Homicide Bomber (suicide) You Tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22XEkJY62VA
Failed Suicide Bomber Hopes for Another Chance to Kill (You Tube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpXm9hvXroc
Jihad & Terrorism Studies Project September 26, 2002 Special Report No.10 Fiday Sermons in Saudi Mosques: Review and Analysis (MEMRI)
(This is from Saudi Arabia. Same with an article on Islam Sheikh bin Humaid that I read and am submitting below.)
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/736.htm
Islam's Hatred of the Non-Muslim by David Bukay (Middle East Forum)
http://www.meforum.org/3545/islam-hatred-non-muslim
Guest Column: Palestinian TV Teaches Kids The Way to 'Jihad Street' by Abigail R. Esman (Investigative Project)
http://www.investigativeproject.org/4394/guest-column-palestinian-tv-teaches-kids-the-way
Hamas to kids: Shoot all the Jews (Jihad Watch)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/hamas-to-kids-shoot-all-the-jews
Farfour "martyred" by Israelis in final episode (You Tube video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrieBhaGgHM
MEMRI Transcript: Farfour, Hamas' Mickey Mouse Character, Is 'Martyred' in the Final Episode of the "Pioneers of Tomorrow" Children's Show on Hamas Al-Aqsa TV
http://www.memri.org/report/en/print2274.htm
Children as combatants: Motivating children to seek Shahada
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=846
Camp Jihad UN/US Palestine Probaganda and brainwashing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbrafPTe_LQ#at=211
Hamas Summer Camps: Fun, Sun and Guns by Aryeh Savir 7-13-14 (Breaking Israel News)
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/17721/hamas-summer-camps-fun-sun-guns-photos/#t18RPE7WusjewHqd.97
Michael Coren & David Harris - Palestinian terrorist training camps for kids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsZXCLD1Lc
“She's Buried Chest High” (You Tube video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdy5Fwwfzg
The "Right of Return" Is Suicide for Israel by Jonathan Schanzer (MEF)
http://www.meforum.org/334/the-right-of-return-is-suicide-for-israel
The History of the Middle East Conflict in 11 Minutes (You Tube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZY8m0cm1oY
“Letter to the Editor” International Herald Tribune, July 1, 2003 by Giulia Boukhobza (Also in Bostom's “Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism” book: Chapter 68, page 677: "A Libyan Jew Breaks Her Silence 36 yrs after surviving the 67 Tripolitan Pogrom")
Congressional Record
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2003-09-04/pdf/CREC-2003-09-04-pt1-PgE1682-2.pdf#page=1
LarryASingletonsays...Duh...I am real slow sometimes. I just noticed the "HuffPost". Anyway do you need to know anymore about what position they take? Like just about every other media they should just go ahead and add an "Al Jazeera" to their names and mastheads.
(no sarcasm)
radxsays...Does anyone else get the impression that those last three comments are quite representative of the information warfare waged these days by several parties (nations, corporations, etc)?
Comparatively endless and overly specific tirade against something that was not even the topic of the video? The use of "99.9% of the knuckleheads commenting here" in a thread with a mere three entries?
So very out of place...
Zawashsays...*controversy, *military
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Controversy, Military) - requested by Zawash.
VoodooVsays...wow. brand new account to make those posts. I think you're right @radx
There is definitely shilling afoot lately, I've been seeing a lot more big red Ps lately
ChaosEnginesays...Clearly.
Get this through your head. Criticism of Israel does not equate to support for Hamas.
I shall now leave you to return to your false dilemma and no true Scotsman arguments.
Duh...I am real slow sometimes.
newtboysays...I imagine he's one of the Israelites paid by Israel to smother social media in pro-Israel anti-Palestine propaganda that were recently reported on.
Does anyone else get the impression that those last three comments are quite representative of the information warfare waged these days by several parties (nations, corporations, etc)?
Comparatively endless and overly specific tirade against something that was not even the topic of the video? The use of "99.9% of the knuckleheads commenting here" in a thread with a mere three entries?
So very out of place...
Yogisays...Hey Credit where credit is due!
I just like credit.
I imagine he's one of the Israelites paid by Israel to smother social media in pro-Israel anti-Palestine propaganda that were recently reported on.
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