Cop beats Iraqi war vet

Usually police brutality videos are grainy, shot from a distance, etc. This one actually has two angles, including a close up.
kurtdhsays...

I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

Skeevesays...

My thoughts exactly. There was nothing in the video that warranted that beating, this guy should rot in prison.
>> ^kurtdh:

I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

This is one of the worst cases too, mostly because the cop has also been held to falsifying police reports. Which means that even if it was "lawful discretion", it doesn't matter what he says at this point. Most likely this guy will get tared and feathered. At any rate, it does look like overuse of force, but he was resisting arrest. But he didn't make the first physical contact (from what we see in the video). I would hate to have to be the person that sat over this, it is hardly simple.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^blankfist:
Haha. Way to go statist idiots.


You mean sadist idiot. The other was a passive idiot. But I am sure you counted the one cop that was there and who was a sadist.

At any rate, my view is to lock up the cop in this one. Fire the other cop if he did not report the abuse.

But the victim wants 35 million dollars from a lawsuit?! I could see if the victim's legs and arms were sawed off with a dull knife, but there is no excuse to give him 35 million dollars of taxpayers' money. Even if his civil rights were violated---if the cop is trained not to act in this manner and the department can prove such, and if the the department can prove they disciplined the cop properly, this greedy hat won't get much. I assume the department will settle out of court because lawsuits cost more than the payout would probably be... Just another sap looking for a free ride.

Thank god for cameras though.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^kurtdh:
I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.


The victim used active resistance when he pushed the cop. Still, no excuse for the cop's actions. Thank god most cops I have met are nothing like him.

coolhundsays...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^kurtdh:
I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

The victim used active resistance when he pushed the cop. Still, no excuse for the cop's actions. Thank god most cops I have met are nothing like him.


So, you're pushing cops a lot?

handmethekeysyousays...

Doesn't push the cop so much as he pushes the cop's hand away when the cop goes for his neck. Cop already had baton in hand.>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^kurtdh:
I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

The victim used active resistance when he pushed the cop. Still, no excuse for the cop's actions. Thank god most cops I have met are nothing like him.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^handmethekeysyou:
Doesn't push the cop so much as he pushes the cop's hand away when the cop goes for his neck. Cop already had baton in hand.>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^kurtdh:
I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

The victim used active resistance when he pushed the cop. Still, no excuse for the cop's actions. Thank god most cops I have met are nothing like him.




True, but baton in hand is different than baton in face, i.e use. Unused... it is not an effective weapon. I am not saying the push deserved anything and reading into that would be counter-productive. I think this cop was far out of line before the push started.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^coolhund:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^kurtdh:
I'm usually on the cops side when it comes to videos like this. It's hard to excuse the cops actions in this video, however. The victim might have been putting up passive resistance or using an aggressive stance, but certainly didn't warrant multiple beatings to the head with a baton.

The victim used active resistance when he pushed the cop. Still, no excuse for the cop's actions. Thank god most cops I have met are nothing like him.

So, you're pushing cops a lot? <IMG class=smiley src="http://static1.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/smile.gif">



Always, they just stare at me blankly

SDGundamXsays...

Longer vid here, including more context and what happens next:

The cops continue to beat him and kick him after he's handcuffed and lying in the fetal position on the floor. Give the man his $35 million.

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

You mean sadist idiot. The other was a passive idiot. But I am sure you counted the one cop that was there and who was a sadist.
At any rate, my view is to lock up the cop in this one. Fire the other cop if he did not report the abuse.
But the victim wants 35 million dollars from a lawsuit?! I could see if the victim's legs and arms were sawed off with a dull knife, but there is no excuse to give him 35 million dollars of taxpayers' money. Even if his civil rights were violated---if the cop is trained not to act in this manner and the department can prove such, and if the the department can prove they disciplined the cop properly, this greedy hat won't get much. I assume the department will settle out of court because lawsuits cost more than the payout would probably be... Just another sap looking for a free ride.
Thank god for cameras though.

MycroftHomlzsays...

Hey...

This embed has the full altercation from different cameras, start to finish. It is pretty disgusting though.

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Porksandwichsays...

Hell if those cops had been white I think this guy could ask for double what he's seeking at the moment. Betting he gets 5-10 mil though. Big cop should be facing criminal charges, but he'll probably just lose his job and go to a small town in another state to continue on. Little cop should lose his job as well, unless he's reported his partner for anger issues in the past and been ignored...then he might be looking at a pay day too if they decide to take action on him.

Guy getting the shit kicked out of him needs to sue em both after he's done with the big money trial against the department/government, put some financial hurt on them. The guy whipping his legs with that baton after he's cuffed, and focusing on his head at the beginning is bad news. He was looking to cause damage and pain to him and not in a subduing way. In a knock him out or make him beg kind of way.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^Porksandwich:
Hell if those cops had been white I think this guy could ask for double what he's seeking at the moment. Betting he gets 5-10 mil though. Big cop should be facing criminal charges, but he'll probably just lose his job and go to a small town in another state to continue on. Little cop should lose his job as well, unless he's reported his partner for anger issues in the past and been ignored...then he might be looking at a pay day too if they decide to take action on him.
Guy getting the shit kicked out of him needs to sue em both after he's done with the big money trial against the department/government, put some financial hurt on them. The guy whipping his legs with that baton after he's cuffed, and focusing on his head at the beginning is bad news. He was looking to cause damage and pain to him and not in a subduing way. In a knock him out or make him beg kind of way.


Your post is very...uninformed... The agressive cop will most likely face criminal charges so the department will not hold the brunt of the lawsuit. This is a fairly recent change that came about as departments have been forced to take responsibilty. We had a guy down here pull a DUI woman out of her car (through the window) because she intended to drive off. Of course her door was locked... He lost his job, but did not go to jail. Why? Because she could have killed him. That fact did not prevent his job security... Still, in this case there is no chance for the victim to hurt the police.

Departments do not "feel the hurt" financially, ever. They do feel the brunt of politicians who turn on them and get their leadership fired.

>> ^SDGundamX:
Longer vid here, including more context and what happens next:
The cops continue to beat him and kick him after he's handcuffed and lying in the fetal position on the floor. Give the man his $35 million.
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
You mean sadist idiot. The other was a passive idiot. But I am sure you counted the one cop that was there and who was a sadist.
At any rate, my view is to lock up the cop in this one. Fire the other cop if he did not report the abuse.
But the victim wants 35 million dollars from a lawsuit?! I could see if the victim's legs and arms were sawed off with a dull knife, but there is no excuse to give him 35 million dollars of taxpayers' money. Even if his civil rights were violated---if the cop is trained not to act in this manner and the department can prove such, and if the the department can prove they disciplined the cop properly, this greedy hat won't get much. I assume the department will settle out of court because lawsuits cost more than the payout would probably be... Just another sap looking for a free ride.
Thank god for cameras though.



Thanks for the new vid. I did kind of address the lawsuit issue more in the above quote. Call your congressman or woman, sue the officers, and be done with it.

Porksandwichsays...

I know of the case where the officer in Toledo Ohio (might be wrong on the city) shot a motorcyclist in the back and severed his spine. They punished him with some jail time, although I don't recall the specifics of it right off the top of my head. Technically he could have hurt the police with his bike or if he had a gun, but the cop over-reacted and paralyzed the guy. While the police officer was found guilty, that does not excuse the department of blame. Perhaps he had shown a history of it, perhaps he was not properly trained.....hell maybe he was going through some stuff at home and they shouldn't have let him out for duty. If they were aware of it and took no action to make sure the guy was fit for duty, they are culpable. And given that they are a government/tax funded organization by and large.....they may not have to pay it out of their own funding if they lose..perhaps they are insured against it. I really don't know on that aspect of it..someone will be paying out on behalf of them whether it's another government branch or an insurance company...

This guy could have been much more aggressive and tried to harm the cops, but they were obviously after him for one reason or another. Something he said, something he did, dunno. Anyway, the place he was in was either some sort of federal building or some kind of high crime apartment complex..that was a whole lot of cameras...and they had police at the entrance. So unless the department hangs him out to dry, and even if they do. Big cop will argue that the building is a high crime zone and he was afraid for his life or some such, and maybe he was. I haven't seen anything where he's permanently harmed the guy, so it's not like he's paralyzed, permanently disfigured, or some other long term disability caused by it (for what I have seen at this point). And sure victim should sue the cop who beat him, but "beating" cop had a partner who did nothing to stop it. So department now has two cops who allow or perform beatings on their suspects. Not a trend to be ignored, especially when it's on camera in so many angles. He can easily sue that department, he may not get 35 mil but he'll get something substantial. And if either cop has a history of this stuff, department is in it thick at that point.


>> ^Lawdeedaw:

Your post is very...uninformed... The agressive cop will most likely face criminal charges so the department will not hold the brunt of the lawsuit. This is a fairly recent change that came about as departments have been forced to take responsibilty. We had a guy down here pull a DUI woman out of her car (through the window) because she intended to drive off. Of course her door was locked... He lost his job, but did not go to jail. Why? Because she could have killed him. That fact did not prevent his job security... Still, in this case there is no chance for the victim to hurt the police.
Departments do not "feel the hurt" financially, ever. They do feel the brunt of politicians who turn on them and get their leadership fired.

>> ^Porksandwich:
Hell if those cops had been white I think this guy could ask for double what he's seeking at the moment. Betting he gets 5-10 mil though. Big cop should be facing criminal charges, but he'll probably just lose his job and go to a small town in another state to continue on. Little cop should lose his job as well, unless he's reported his partner for anger issues in the past and been ignored...then he might be looking at a pay day too if they decide to take action on him.
Guy getting the shit kicked out of him needs to sue em both after he's done with the big money trial against the department/government, put some financial hurt on them. The guy whipping his legs with that baton after he's cuffed, and focusing on his head at the beginning is bad news. He was looking to cause damage and pain to him and not in a subduing way. In a knock him out or make him beg kind of way.

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