right before the bank bailout america saw a populist movement that was breaking away from the republican party,and they called themselves the "tea party".now before the republicans came in with dick army and co-opted that entire movement,which changed their basic foundational philosophy to be more "corporate" friendly,(thanks to dick army and americans for prosperity),and anti-government.they are now called the :freedom caucus,and nowhere near resemble the original tea party,but the impetus for the tea party is still there.
the tea parties message was very similar to another populist movement that came just a few years later in the form of occupy wall street.
now the tea party was co-opted and occupy was crushed,but the under-lying dissatisfaction with this countries neoliberal trajectory,inequality and two tiered justice system remains.
now there is a segment of those who identify as democrats who are breaking away from the dominant corporate democrat establishment,just like the tea party did with the republicans,to form their own caucus,and they intend to primary their own candidates and have their own ideology.
many in the new and independent media have signed on and are actively promoting the new "justice democrats".including:the young turks,secular talk,the humanist report,the jimmy dore show to name just a few.
if you are sick and tired of corporate democrats,and their neoliberal policies.their addiction to corporate cash and no longer wish to play the "incremental game" of our current politics.
check out the justice democrats.
if you wish to know more:
https://justicedemocrats.com/Platform and you can sign up here:
https://justicedemocrats.com/ i alread yhave,because i am seriously fed up with the democrats.
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bobknight33Lets see ....grass roots movement or TYT making you believe it is a grass roots movement.
We have a " fan" who sent in this video and I love it... It is his own organization.
The Justice Democrats are a political action committee[1] founded on January 23, 2017, by Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks,
Kyle Kulinski of Secular Talk, and
former leadership from the 2016 Bernie Sanders presidential campaign.
Its stated goal of reforming the Democratic Party by running "a unified campaign to replace every corporate-backed member of Congress and rebuild the [Democratic] party from scratch" starting in the 2018 Congressional midterm elections.[2][3]
The Justice Democrats have been described as attempting to create a left-wing populist movement analogous to the right-wing Tea Party movement.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats
enoch@bobknight33
unsure if you are gloating that you uncovered some deep,dark secret,and are exposing some political conspiracy.
or are just re-iterating what i already posted.
for years i have seen you promote and tout the validity and necessity of the tea party for those who may be disgruntled with the mainstream republican party.
a party that started with modest means,but is now funded by some of the most wealthy and influential political players in our country:the koch bothers.
they even changed their name to the freedom caucus.
and they nominate candidates,and come out to support them.
so how is the tea party,which broke away from the establishment republicans to promote a politics that is more in line with the constitution,ANY different from the people who are sick and tired of corporate,establishment democrats? who ALSO have decided that enough is enough and have banded together to nominate their own candidates,and support those candidates to represent THEIR politics and ideological philosophies.
how,exactly,is that different?
because while you may disagree with justice democrats politically,and i suspect you do,you should also be proud that they are taking a stand and sticking up for their beliefs.
are you SO unaware of your own bias,prejudice and hyper-partisanship as to not recognize when a group of people are doing the EXACT same thing as your tea party did?
be careful bob,your bias and hypocrisy are showing.
and you are becoming a partisan hack,attacking any and everything that is contrary to your own politics,even when in reality it is performing the very same thing that you state to admire.
so what is more important to you?
honesty,integrity and sticking to your moral values?
or political affilliations?
because i can disagree with someones politics,and still admire and respect them standing up for their values.(that includes you bob).
i gather this is something you are incapable of doing,because in bob's world"politics trumps everything else,end of discussion.
if you want to sully your eyes a bit,check out what the justice democrats are seeking to do,and what their base philosophy is:
https://justicedemocrats.com/platform
*promote
*quality
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bobknight33Big difference
The TEA party wants to follow the Constitution.
All other groups don't.
How do the justice democrats line up with the Constitution?
I checked you link to the JD platform - Some are worthy but still most are Un constitutional BS feel good look nonsense .
Pass a constitutional amendment to put an end to Washington corruption and bring about election reform. --- Never pass FOx watching hen house- only a smaller government helps this and term limits.
Defend free speech and expression.-Left are the oppressors
Ensure universal healthcare as a right. -Un constitutional
Create the new new deal.
Ensure universal education as a right. Un constitutional
Ensure universal healthcare as a right.Un constitutional
Make the minimum wage a living wage and tie it to inflation.Un constitutional
Defend and protect women’s rights. - So we dont cre about men?
Ensure paid vacation time, sick time, family leave, childcare. Un constitutional
Protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Un constitutional
Implement comprehensive immigration reform. agreed
Enact police reform. - Agreed arrest criminals
Combat homelessness. - bring back sanatoriums that liberals removed .
@bobknight33
unsure if you are gloating that you uncovered some deep,dark secret,and are exposing some political conspiracy.
or are just re-iterating what i already posted.
for years i have seen you promote and tout the validity and necessity of the tea party for those who may be disgruntled with the mainstream republican party.
a party that started with modest means,but is now funded by some of the most wealthy and influential political players in our country:the koch bothers.
they even changed their name to the freedom caucus.
and they nominate candidates,and come out to support them.
so how is the tea party,which broke away from the establishment republicans to promote a politics that is more in line with the constitution,ANY different from the people who are sick and tired of corporate,establishment democrats? who ALSO have decided that enough is enough and have banded together to nominate their own candidates,and support those candidates to represent THEIR politics and ideological philosophies.
how,exactly,is that different?
because while you may disagree with justice democrats politically,and i suspect you do,you should also be proud that they are taking a stand and sticking up for their beliefs.
are you SO unaware of your own bias,prejudice and hyper-partisanship as to not recognize when a group of people are doing the EXACT same thing as your tea party did?
be careful bob,your bias and hypocrisy are showing.
and you are becoming a partisan hack,attacking any and everything that is contrary to your own politics,even when in reality it is performing the very same thing that you state to admire.
so what is more important to you?
honesty,integrity and sticking to your moral values?
or political affilliations?
because i can disagree with someones politics,and still admire and respect them standing up for their values.(that includes you bob).
i gather this is something you are incapable of doing,because in bob's world"politics trumps everything else,end of discussion.
if you want to sully your eyes a bit,check out what the justice democrats are seeking to do,and what their base philosophy is:
https://justicedemocrats.com/platform
*promote
*quality
enoch@bobknight33
you literally just repeated things that i,and pretty much everyone on the sift already know.
and has NOTHING to do with what i was asking.
i stated,quite clearly,that on a philosophical and political level,you would disagree with the justice democrats.there is no confusion here,and no reason for you to have gone down the line the things you disagree with.
the question i asked is how is the justice democrats breaking away from the dominant corporate democrats any different from the tea party breaking away from the mainstream republicans?
hint:there is no difference.
i may disagree with the tea party on many political issues,but i admired and respected their integrity to challenge the monolithic political domination of the republican party.even though i may disagree with them politically.to start their own branch WITHIN the republican party.
which is exactly what the justice democrats are doing.
the main reason why i asked is because you down-voted THIS video promoting the justice democrats,and yet had posted a video by kyle,from secular talk and who is a founding member of the justice democrats.criticizing the corporate democrats for their addiction to big campaign donors.
so i appreciate that you took the time to check out their platform,but are we really surprised that you disagree with the majority of what they are trying to accomplish?
of course not,which is why my question was not "do you agree with the justice democrats?"
because you down-voting this video,promoting justice democrats,and then posting a video FROM the justice democrats is a tad confusing.
i was really just asking you to clarify.
do you respect and admire a grass roots movement within the democratic party that seeks to challenge the status quo? even though you may disagree politically?
or are you SO partisan that anything that has "democrat" in the label is automatically to be admonished,criticized and ultimately ridiculed?
bonus question:were you aware the video you posted was from a founding member of justice democrats?
i guess i am just trying to understand,because the downvote along with you posting a video from the very people you just downvoted is philosophically inconsistent.
newtboyClearly the latter. Why even ask? Are you just trying to see if he even realises it?
@bobknight33
do you respect and admire a grass roots movement within the democratic party that seeks to challenge the status quo? even though you may disagree politically?
or are you SO partisan that anything that has "democrat" in the label is automatically to be admonished,criticized and ultimately ridiculed?
enochi guess i am in a way.
i have seen bob break away from his ideologues to promote his own ideas.so i know he is capable of defying the monolithic demagogue machinery.
i mean,just the other day he posted a video from secular talk,which is a liberal talk show and is a founding member of justice democrats.
now the video he posted was most likely to promote his own criticism that democrats are greedy little big money addicts,which is not an inaccurate accusation,but i found it odd that he posted a video from a founding member of justice democrats and yet down voted a video---promoting justice democrats.
i want to know how he is reconciling this obvious disparity.
Clearly the latter. Why even ask? Are you just trying to see if he even realises it?
newtboyYou act as if he knows who he is posting.
Anyone talking shit about Democrats is a truth telling pillar of society...until they turn on Republicans.
It's not about consistency or rationality, it's about thumbing your nose and sticking out your tongue at the other team.
i guess i am in a way.
i have seen bob break away from his ideologues to promote his own ideas.so i know he is capable of defying the monolithic demagogue machinery.
i mean,just the other day he posted a video from secular talk,which is a liberal talk show and is a founding member of justice democrats.
now the video he posted was most likely to promote his own criticism that democrats are greedy little big money addicts,which is not an inaccurate accusation,but i found it odd that he posted a video from a founding member of justice democrats and yet down voted a video---promoting justice democrats.
i want to know how he is reconciling this obvious disparity.
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