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Mordhaussays...*quality
siftbotsays...Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by Mordhaus.
eric3579says...*doublepromote
siftbotsays...Double-Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Sunday, September 30th, 2018 8:15pm PDT - doublepromote requested by eric3579.
newtboysays...:45..."what can we do about it?
A: Have fewer children.
2:20 "we could nourish an additional 3.5 billion more people if we just ate the stuff we feed to animals"
.....except humans can't eat grasses, the main food source for cattle. Most of what we feed animals is not considered edible by humans. Organic free range chickens eat insects and slugs, is the narrator prepared to live on that to prove his point? I doubt it.
6:13 "burgers are the best food".
This proves this was made by non meat eaters with no knowledge of meat at all. Anyone who would contend a 1/4 pounder s the pinnacle of meat dishes should have their tongue removed so they don't spread more nonsense, they obviously aren't using it to taste food. ;-)
eric3579says...He doesn't actually explain how that number comes about and what it means exactly. This is where he pulled that information from http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034015
2:20 "we could nourish an additional 3.5 billion more people if we just ate the stuff we feed to animals"
newtboysays...Ha! Thanks for the link.
So, it's total b.s. as I read it.
First, then he misstated, he thinks we could feed 3.5 billion more people if we converted all land currently providing food for animals into successful industrial human farmland, which is not what he said at all. He said "if we just eat what we feed to animals", which is impossible insanity.
Second, they extrapolated by determining the approximate number of hectares being used to provide animal feed (likely including natural grasslands that aren't and cannot be planted or farmed), then extrapolating again using a formula that tells them the maximum number of people you can feed with successful aggressive multicrop farming of the same number of hectares, as if you can get the same maximum yield from any hectare....and ignoring that it takes huge amounts of fresh water to farm industrially, water that native grasslands don't need or have available.
He doesn't actually explain how that number comes about and what it means exactly. Where he pulled that statistic from, for anyone interested. from.http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034015
00Scud00says...We're not just talking grazing land here, alfalfa makes up a considerable amount of livestock feed. And you know where they're growing it? In the middle of the fucking desert, but as it stands right now, land in the desert is cheap and so is water, so that's what we do.
Ha! Thanks for the link.
So, it's total b.s. as I read it.
First, then he misstated, he thinks we could feed 3.5 billion more people if we converted all land currently providing food for animals into successful industrial human farmland, which is not what he said at all. He said "if we just eat what we feed to animals", which is impossible insanity.
Second, they extrapolated by determining the approximate number of hectares being used to provide animal feed (likely including natural grasslands that aren't and cannot be planted or farmed), then extrapolating again using a formula that tells them the maximum number of people you can feed with successful aggressive multicrop farming of the same number of hectares, as if you can get the same maximum yield from any hectare....and ignoring that it takes huge amounts of fresh water to farm industrially, water that native grasslands don't need or have available.
newtboysays...Oh yeah, and corn and other grains. I just meant a large portion of land that feeds livestock is not suitable for farming, even more is not suitable for multi crop non-grain farming, so I think his estimates are way off.
That water is becoming far less cheap, at least here in California. We sucked so much out of our aquifers that the central valley is sinking! There's a limit to how much more we can irrigate.
We're not just talking grazing land here, alfalfa makes up a considerable amount of livestock feed. And you know where they're growing it? In the middle of the fucking desert, but as it stands right now, land in the desert is cheap and so is water, so that's what we do.
ToastyBuffoonsays...I'm just here to say that bacon is delicious.
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