I think Americans woke up to the reality of state-run healthcare only in the last few years. Right now they're just getting used to the idea, but ultimately this GOP ploy will probably backfire in a huge way. The best way to get anyone to notice the value inherent in a program is to take it away from them or sabotage it to the point where it becomes useless.

I've seen so many interviews with middle age to older Americans who voted for Trump because Obamacare increased 200% in cost over a few years and now Trump's going to blow that up by as much as 750%?

Good luck in the mid-terms Republicans.

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@Drachen_Jager
yeah,the way i am reading it is that this new plan is going to defer much more control,and therefore responsibility,to a state level.

considering that many local municipalities are broke,bankrupt or on the verge of both.i do not see this ending well.with local and state governments being forced to trim plans to non-existent coverage,or raise premiums.

as it is written right now,this is a lose -lose for the republicans.

and to answer your question @ChaosEngine,the american people are down with single payer according to the polls (when the right questions are asked),and this includes moderate republicans.

so it is not the american people,it is the multi-billion dollar health insurance industry,and THEIR politicial bullshit is an entirely separate conversation.

let's just say they are cunts,and leave it at that.

Then why did we see so many protests around the ACA?

It wasn't the insurance companies protesting, although I have no doubt they spent a tonne of money lobbying against it.

@ChaosEngine

lol.i just deleted a massive ramblomatic that broke down the entire history of the ACA.

figured i better just stick to basics.

many of the early protests you saw were partisan diehards who had been riled up by their favorite demagogue.

socalism!!
communism!!

but really the two great things from the ACA,and were provisions obama fought very hard for were:
pre-existing conditions
and while the ACA did not allow negotiating pharmaceutical prices,they DID put a cap on them.

and while the ACA was not perfect,far from it,those two provisions did a lot of good for people who suffered from long term illnesses.

but when anericans are asked pointed questions,without being directed for a specific goal,the majority support a single payer system.even republicans.

because you are right.it is a no-brainer.
americans already pay into a system:medicare/medicaid.
which operates on a 3% overhead.
and if basic,preventative care is offered early in peoples lives,the resulting savings totals into the 100's of billions.

and when presented to the american people like that,the majority are all for it.

*note( in the first three weeks of debating the ACA,the big 3 health insurance companies(blue cross,humana and cigna) spent a whopping 300 BILLION!

by the end it was almost a trillion they had spent to combat the passing of the ACA.

Honestly, it's because about 25-30% of Americans are pathetically easy to manipulate into cutting off their own noses, if they're just told that the lib'ruls want them to keep them whole.

It's clearly the healthcare and insurance industries driving the opposition to single-payer, but they couldn't manage to keep it off the table if social manipulation wasn't so advanced these days. It doesn't help when we have just the two parties ruling the political system: reactionary and corporate.

Because conservatives are fucking morons, there,that was easy,wasn't it?

Conservatism if the most destructive force in America, it feeds on ignorance and leaves misery ,death,and destruction,every where it goes.

@ChaosEngine

No, the Conservatives in the UK wouldn't dare SAY they wish to abolish the NHS, but they'll cripple it as much as they can get away with it (and then they'll blame immigrants for overburdening it). I don't think we should be complacent. Salami Slices.

Oh, I know May and her cronies would love to destroy it, because fuck sick people? or something... damned if I know why.

But my point is that even if they would like to get rid of it, they know that it's popular with the electorate, whereas in the states, the fucking ELECTORATE hate it... the mind boggles...