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21 Comments
siftbotsays...Tags for this video have been changed from 'traffic stop, bullets' to 'traffic stop, bullets, oriana ferrell' - edited by Lawdeedaw
Lawdeedawsays...Well, lets actually put in some searchable like the woman's name, rather than bullets.
Like her name.
Lawdeedawsays...But onto the content of this video, this has little to do with the high speed limit. The mother was probably concerned with the drugs she had in the car--which could have resulted in the loss of her children.
First there are many factors here. The biggest one is that the last officer to arrive was most likely unaware of the children in the vehicle (Since it looks like he had just arrived at the end of the video.)
Second, there were a lot of people there who were defensive of their mother, one of which was already physically aggressive.
The third point to make is that a vehicle is a deadly weapon, no matter what kind. By driving off you are showing a dangerous recklessness and willingness to hurt/kill other people (Including your children) and that you are fine with the worst scenario happening. (This is also why there is a no chase policy, unless circumstances outweigh the risks.)
I personally think this officer was indecisive and used far too little force to start with when the mother drove away the first time. In fact, it resulted in far too much at the end. The officer holds his tazer at the son without using it. What was he thinking? In truth, he let this happen by trying to be kind.
Make no mistake, I don't agree with how the officers handled it. There are policies to avoid this. And shooting into a car, for the simple fact that it can then be driverless and a danger to others, is/should be prohibited (Again, based on the totality of what a reasonable officer thinks is the danger to others.)
chingalerasays...The cops I'd have to say acted without any real fuck-ups. It would have horrible if one of those kids had been hit by the cop trying to take out tires but hey....She could have been kidnapping those kids and her son assaulted a police officer...Not very bright for a carload of braincells-
UsesProzacsays...*quality
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Trancecoachsays...*law *news
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VoodooVsays...The mother deserves to be locked up and her kids taken away for being a total idiot.
but despite that, the gun discharge was totally unjustified. I think the taser use was completely justified however. She demonstrated complete and total stupidity and her actions endangered her kids...but dangerous enough to whip out a gun? nah.
would it be within the cop's rights to confiscate a person's keys in a situation like this? It wouldn't have been able to escalate like this had the mother not been able to drive away...twice. Or just some other way of preventing the car from driving away during a stop.
sure..wouldn't stop someone from having a second set of keys, but it would probably stop a lot of fleeing like this.
I just don't understand why someone hasn't developed a way of temporarily locking a car down for stuff like this. Would stop so much shit from escalation. Something they can do before they even talk to the suspect.
notarobotsays...If there were drugs in the car, wouldn't the police have found them once they caught up?
But onto the content of this video, this has little to do with the high speed limit. The mother was probably concerned with the drugs she had in the car--which could have resulted in the loss of her children.
First there are many factors here. The biggest one is that the last officer to arrive was most likely unaware of the children in the vehicle (Since it looks like he had just arrived at the end of the video.)
Second, there were a lot of people there who were defensive of their mother, one of which was already physically aggressive.
The third point to make is that a vehicle is a deadly weapon, no matter what kind. By driving off you are showing a dangerous recklessness and willingness to hurt/kill other people (Including your children) and that you are fine with the worst scenario happening. (This is also why there is a no chase policy, unless circumstances outweigh the risks.)
I personally think this officer was indecisive and used far too little force to start with when the mother drove away the first time. In fact, it resulted in far too much at the end. The officer holds his tazer at the son without using it. What was he thinking? In truth, he let this happen by trying to be kind.
Make no mistake, I don't agree with how the officers handled it. There are policies to avoid this. And shooting into a car, for the simple fact that it can then be driverless and a danger to others, is/should be prohibited (Again, based on the totality of what a reasonable officer thinks is the danger to others.)
Kofisays...America, FUCK YEAH!
lucky760says...She is a really stupid woman and a horrible mother for endangering her 5 children like that.
Moreover, it's a great way to raise 5 more people to disrespect authority and the law.
The cop is also a total dipshit for apparently trying to shoot out the tires, but the mother is an absolute imbecile.
Lawdeedawsays...Sorry, drug paraphernalia. Which is the same exact results--lose kids etc. So yes, I stand by my statement because they did find it http://abcnews.go.com/US/minivan-stop-ends-shoots-fired-high-speed-chase/story?id=20912206
If there were drugs in the car, wouldn't the police have found them once they caught up?
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