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"Time Warner has called, and they want us back on the couch, not producing, not sharing, just consuming."

Brilliant quote at the end there.

It always comes back to old money.

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Good stuff.

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This is a list of all the US Senators and their stance concerning PIPA. Currently, there are 38 in support, 19 opposed, 7 leaning toward no, and 36 undecided. If you click a senator's name you can see their information, including the phone number of their office that you can call and voice your opinion. These offices WILL have someone answering the phones so I called both of my senators to tell them to vote no and was done in less than one minute.

http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/pipa#roll_call

I actually believe in protecting intellectual property, but some of this stuff is ridiculous.

Let's take the very first example. We have BakeCo, an faceless corporation that makes generic Cake-like Edilble Party Treats(tm).

Now let's imagine, we have Stan. Stan is a small time artist who one day creates a cartoon character (let's call him ararcnid-man) that becomes kinda popular.

BakeCo sees this and starts selling ArachnidMan cakes without paying Stan any money.

Most people would agree that this is unfair.

Now if you can't tell the difference between that, and a small company allowing people to print their own designs, your thinking is broken.

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Guy reminds me of Tom Hanks.

I don't think they will pass, but I think each round they cram through pushes us closer to the time something like it will. And I suspect it will be worse once it does finally get in.

And once it happens, I suspect Internet2 will spring up. Maybe even running on a Google/whomever fiber network that would hopefully break the monopoly of so many other companies out there. Fracture the internet to the one everyone uses and the one all the companies police.

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[..] we have Stan. Stan is a small time artist who one day creates a cartoon character (let's call him arachnid-man) that becomes kinda popular.
BakeCo sees this and starts selling ArachnidMan cakes without paying Stan any money.
Most people would agree that this is unfair.
Now if you can't tell the difference between that, and a small company allowing people to print their own designs, your thinking is broken.


I agree, with your example, that would be somewhat unfair, especially since Stan is a small time artist.

But then, this is not the example given in the talk?

Equivalent would be something like Stan's neighbor buying Stan's comics, and thinking that they're great, he'd go to the BakeCo and order a customized cake with ArachnidMan[tm] on top of it. Now, if he just ate it with his son and his birthday guests, I can't see anything wrong with that?

Now if anyone started mass producing and selling those ArachnidMan[tm] cakes for profit, without a share going to Stan, that's when I think it starts to get in to the gray areas of morality..

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I agree, with your example, that would be somewhat unfair, especially since Stan is a small time artist.
But then, this is not the example given in the talk?
Equivalent would be something like Stan's neighbor buying Stan's comics, and thinking that they're great, he'd go to the BakeCo and order a customized cake with ArachnidMan[tm] on top of it. Now, if he just ate it with his son and his birthday guests, I can't see anything wrong with that?
Now if anyone started mass producing and selling those ArachnidMan[tm] cakes for profit, without a share going to Stan, that's when I think it starts to get in to the gray areas of morality..

That's actually pretty much what I was saying. Apologies if I phrased it badly. I realise that wasn't the example given in the talk, I was turning the example around to give an example of where protecting IP is moral.

Essentially what I am saying is that there is a difference between a commercial enterprise exploiting someone else's IP for profit, and a consumer using someone's IP for personal use.

The DNS control mechanism of implementing SOPA and/or PIPA policies needs to get some more full explanation to Joe Public. Everything that the Content groups, the MPAAs and RIAAs etc. have done has been fatally flawed in that it can at best delay casual piracy, and usually even that is circumvented almost instantaneously. From what I can see, policing DNS would do no better than their other historical efforts in that regard.

This guy mentions that you can still type in an IP address and get to an infringing site. Maybe I am wrong or don't understand the full situation, but I would go a step further and say that this practice would simply result in US-based DNS servers being immediately replaced by DNS providers in other nations that fail to tow the SOPA/PIPA line. Joe User would get a quick walkthrough of changing his DNS provider through router or software settings, everybody would scramble for a brief period of time, and then the "sanctions" could be fairly safely ignored.

When the *AA's realize that the legislation they purchased with massive "campaign contributions" has no teeth, they would probably push (as in, push more dollars into the hands of lobbyists) for legal penalties to infringing sites beyond being de-listed from (US-based) DNS. If *that* were to actually happen also, it would simply chase ALL internet hosting outside of the US. The US could threaten trade sanctions or whatever against countries that turn a blind eye to infringing, but there would be so much of it going on that everyone could just balk at it and we'd be blowing a whole lot of hot air with jack behind it.

I think that the mainstream media needs a somebody with the balls to stand up and say that the cat is out of the bag on "protecting" Intellectual Property. For better or worse, it just isn't going to happen. The first group that accepts that and moves towards some new model is going to be way ahead of the curve in comparison to these dinosaurs that are trying to stitch a broken balloon together with needle and thread.

Is this Tom Hanks' bald brother?

Anyone else visit 74.125.226.212?

I thought it was random, off the cuff numbers. Turns out it's Google.

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Anyone else visit 74.125.226.212?
I thought it was random, off the cuff numbers. Turns out it's Google.


Everything is Google.

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