I have witnessed this twice at the only two car accidents I have ever performed first response at.

In one of them I had to block traffic with my car, in order to keep the people from hitting the victims.

I was a civilian, and those bystanders were very unhappy with me

Only one other person helped me, he was a construction worker and ex military, I remember his face to this day.

I have seen this before
People stay in the "Everything Is Normal" group until someone checks on the apparant drunk, once that happens a new group is created and some bystanders join this group - querying and helping where possible.

Its a strange mechanic
excellent post!

also, if you've read Watchmen, you know Genovese's death had a major effect for one of them.

and if you haven't read it yet, you really ought to, and before the movie comes out.

Monkey see, monkey do....

^You're not far off chogg, the effects he speaks of stem from our tree swinging days and our aversion to help another being chewed up by the Saber-Toothed Leopard.

Although, if I had been in those apartments, I certainly would have thrown great handfuls of my shit at the attacker.

Seen this too. Car crashed on a intersection and no one did anything. I ran up and asked the occuptants if they were okay. I was about to call 911, when 2 other people ran up as well.

Everyone else was just walking by like nothing happened. It was fucked.

^ Well... after you had started doing something, a lot of people would walk by anyway. "Oh someone's taking care of it".

It's the people who hear about the accident and go out of their way to go watch the aftermath that creep me out.

So, can we blame 8 years of shredding the US constitution without impeachment on the same social phenomena?

Oh they did stare and look.

Downvote for misleading content:

"A September 2007 article in American Psychologist that reviewed coverage of the Kitty Genovese murder in social psychology textbooks concluded the story of 38 witnesses is not supported by fact, and is more like a parable. See Manning, R., Levine, M., & Collins, A. (2007). The Kitty Genovese murder and the social psychology of helping: The parable of the 38 witnesses. American Psychologist, 62, 555-562."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Didn't the newspaper say 37, how come he says 38. Maybe there is something he isn't telling us. I wonder where his whereabouts were in Queens around the age of stoners in the 60's.

Misleading or not, there were still more than enough witnesses.

Just because there is only a little bit of misleading information does not mean that the proven phenomena is therefore unproven

This phenomena is also called the Diffusion of Responsibility. IE: When a soldier follows the orders of a Superior, and the superiors orders are wrong. That does not mean that the soldier is any less at fault. In this example the soldier thinks that the superior will take all the responsibility. - This is only an example, do not flame me.

I call this the "People are Full of Shit" theory.

>> ^grinter:
So, can we blame 8 years of shredding the US constitution without impeachment on the same social phenomena?


No, but we can blame the lack of a revolution in response to that on the same phenomena.

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Interesting. I think we've all seen/felt this at work.

I'm not sure if this is an example of it but I saw a guy on the tube drop a coin recently and he didn't notice. I moved nearer to check the value - I think if it was low I wasn't going to bother returning it to him and would ignore the whole thing. After all making a big deal in public about a penny might make me look foolish. Then I noticed it was a pound coin and felt better about returning it, it was a big enough deal for me to do something about it.
Even with something as innocuous as this there was a little set of conflicts going on inside me about how I should behave.

Still, if I saw someone getting raped and screaming her head off, I would hope that would be enough to make me do *something*.

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