Teacher Strikes Back...wait for it

(youtube) What started out as a small prank (foot-working in front of random people after school) turned into a party on Whitney Young's 2nd floor the minute Mr."Thirst Gawd" Fanning decided to be the first person to strike back.
Mikus_Aureliussays...

Going along with students' jokes is a double edged sword. It's nice to have students who like you and cheer for you. Sometimes that "respect" comes at the expense of the kind of respect that makes them do their work in your class or obey your instructions in an emergency. There doesn't always have to be a tradeoff, but I've also never seen a correlation between the two.

>> ^spoco2:

And that's how you earn students' respect.

Stormsingersays...

>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:

Going along with students' jokes is a double edged sword. It's nice to have students who like you and cheer for you. Sometimes that "respect" comes at the expense of the kind of respect that makes them do their work in your class or obey your instructions in an emergency. There doesn't always have to be a tradeoff, but I've also never seen a correlation between the two.
>> ^spoco2:
And that's how you earn students' respect.


But a good teacher doesn't "make" the students do their work...a good teacher inspires students to investigate by their own choice.

Mikus_Aureliussays...

Here's a teachable moment. Read it again.

"respect that makes them do their work"

Also, if you're going to begin your reply with "but," you should refute my position, not just some incidental semantics.

I'm teaching you all kinds of shit tonight, I should get an award.

>> ^Stormsinger:
But a good teacher doesn't "make" the students do their work...a good teacher inspires students to investigate by their own choice.

Stormsingersays...

>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:

Here's a teachable moment. Read it again.
"respect that makes them do their work"
Also, if you're going to begin your reply with "but," you should refute my position, not just some incidental semantics.
I'm teaching you all kinds of shit tonight, I should get an award.
>> ^Stormsinger:
But a good teacher doesn't "make" the students do their work...a good teacher inspires students to investigate by their own choice.



Perhaps you have some comprehension problems...you were saying that something, either the teacher or the "respect" for the teacher, makes the students do their work. I was calling bullshit on that statement. I think that qualifies for a "but". Never once did I do any work because of "respect for the teacher"...I did the work either because that's how you passed, or because I was genuinely interested. I leave it up to you to figure out which strategy the good teachers followed, and which lessons have stayed with me for 30+ years after school.

If you think that's just "incidental semantics", then I can only assume that you never had a good teacher. You certainly don't qualify as one yourself, based on this thread. Perhaps an award for most boneheaded douche. Although the competition for that title can be fierce around here, I'd say you've been making a pretty strong showing.

Yogijokingly says...

>> ^renatojj:

School is where teachers go to be tortured.


It was a strange law that created the vast organization to torture teachers. Even delivering their torturers each day via giant yellow machines for greater efficiency. However these young idealistic givers of themselves must be beaten down into old, hatefilled, lumps of greedy crap by the worst that America has to offer. Their Evil Children.

Mikus_Aureliussays...

Sometimes it's helpful and appropriate for adults to tell teenagers what they ought to do.

^ I think that's the opinion I have in common with the straw man you're so intent on flogging. By all means continue if it makes you happy, but if you keep quoting me, you'll keep getting snarky comments.

>> ^Stormsinger:
flog flog flog

Stormsingersays...

>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:

Sometimes it's helpful and appropriate for adults to tell teenagers what they ought to do.
^ I think that's the opinion I have in common with the straw man you're so intent on flogging. By all means continue if it makes you happy, but if you keep quoting me, you'll keep getting snarky comments.
>> ^Stormsinger:
flog flog flog


My mistake...I thought you were trying to add something to the discussion. I won't make that mistake again.

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