Yogisays...

>> ^NetRunner:

Jon Stewart is 100% correct on this one.
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DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I can't believe this fucking guy is serious. The worst sort of ignorant statements are the ones stated in a matter of fact haughty sort of way, as if to say you're soo correct you don't even have to inflect your words.

At least when you get a Tea Partier yelling Obama's a Nazi they can have the excuse of being angry and not thinking clearly...this Douchenozzle shouldn't even be allowed back to his seat...tell him to sit in the fucking corner.

peggedbeasays...

yeah, i was thinking that too but the title of the video on the daily show website was actually word warcraft. and i decided that doesnt sound good. and neither does word of warcraft. i think it needs to be world of wordcraft.
but noone ever consults me on how to construct a sentence or a phrase.
>> ^Drax:

..just a little observation.. it actually is Word of Warcraft.. there's a real tiny 'of' hidden in the "O" : D

Ryjkyjsays...

I don't know, call me closed-minded, but comparing democratically elected officials in a free nation full of positive benefits like roads, dams, parks, education, fire and police services, all sorts of assistance programs, school lunches, laws and the judicial system, the right to pursue happiness, all of which are funded by the American taxpayer (oh, and let's not forget that already includes emergency medical services which could be trimmed down immensely by just a little bit of preventative care)... comparing them to socialists just seems, I don't know, like a stretch?

But comparing republicans, who will readily scapegoat even the smallest and most disadvantaged portions of the population, who are caught in lies daily, including the bald-faced double-standard that allows their consciences to somehow use the apparently communist system of roads to get them to work every day, not to mention cut their paychecks; To simply compare their political strategy to that of the famously espoused Joseph Goebbels quote doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me at all. It seems, in fact, to be pretty fucking appropriate. I see no evidence to the contrary.

bamdrewsays...

A point... you also make one.

Godwin's is an easy road to travel; if this representative had the whole day with a room full of brilliant writers, he'd be Jon Stewart. I bet this guy pulled out Godwin's to try to make his point, and then went off to work on something else.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

I don't know, call me closed-minded, but comparing democratically elected officials in a free nation full of positive benefits like roads, dams, parks, education, fire and police services, all sorts of assistance programs, school lunches, laws and the judicial system, the right to pursue happiness, all of which are funded by the American taxpayer (oh, and let's not forget that already includes emergency medical services which could be trimmed down immensely by just a little bit of preventative care)... comparing them to socialists just seems, I don't know, like a stretch?
But comparing republicans, who will readily scapegoat even the smallest and most disadvantaged portions of the population, who are caught in lies daily, including the bald-faced double-standard that allows their consciences to somehow use the apparently communist system of roads to get them to work every day, not to mention cut their paychecks; To simply compare their political strategy to that of the famously espoused Joseph Goebbels quote doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me at all. It seems, in fact, to be pretty fucking appropriate. I see no evidence to the contrary.

Ryjkyjsays...

"The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued, that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact."

Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

I don't know, call me closed-minded... republicans ... scapegoat even the smallest and most disadvantaged portions of the population, who are caught in lies daily, including the bald-faced double-standard that allows their consciences to somehow use the apparently communist system of roads to get them to work every day, not to mention cut their paychecks; To simply compare their political strategy to that of the famously espoused Joseph Goebbels quote doesn't seem like much of a stretch to me at all...

OK - you're closed minded. Hey - you asked.

Just to make sure what you are saying is perfectly clear... It is unfair when conservatives call liberals 'socialists' as a label to describe left-leaning philosophies that call for expanding government taxation, regulation, and controls. However, it is NOT unfair to call conservatives 'nazis' as a label to describe right-leaning philosophies that call for reduced government taxation, regulation, and controls.

Just wanting to make sure the double-standard is plainly understood.

Ryjkyjsays...

No. Comparing republicans to Nazi's because they have some right-leaning policies not only doesn't make much sense, but it's also rude and cheap. Just like comparing those who have left leaning policies to socialists. If everyone who wanted to vote on policies that would use tax-payer money for the betterment of the country as a whole could be compared to a socialist, then we've been living in a socialist country since 1776.

You're not an idiot WP. I know that you know the quote he's referring to in the video. I'm not going to insult you by pasting it here. A person like you would have memorized that quote a long time ago. All I'm saying is that for the last ten or so years, the republican political philosophy seems to be to lie and repeat so often that people eventually believe it, and it seems to be working on a lot of Americans.

So in short, I'm not really saying that republicans are like Nazis. Just that their political philosophy of late has seems to resemble that of Hitler's propaganda minister. And that it's not anywhere near as much of a stretch as calling democrats socialists.

Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

All I'm saying is that for the last ten or so years, the republican political philosophy seems to be to lie and repeat so often that people eventually believe it, and it seems to be working on a lot of Americans. So in short, I'm not really saying that republicans are like Nazis. Just that their political philosophy of late has seems to resemble that of Hitler's propaganda minister.

Well - OK - fair enough I suppose. However, this particular charge is true of both political parties. It can hardly be said that the GOP's political message machine is something that just appeared out of nowhere. If anything, they are doing nothing more than aping what the Democrats have done since Vietnam and Nixon. When it was learned that hyperbolic television news commentary could bring down political figures, the political world has been dominated by a methodology that "resembles" a propoganda machine.

So calling only the GOPs media methods naziesque is an incomplete picture that implies guilt only exists in one corner - which is hardly correct. The Democrats mastered the politics of personal destruction long before the GOP ever got there. Obama's entire political career has been built on the premise of "lie and repeat so often that people eventually just believe it". Everything Obama ever said about 'stimulus' and 'transparency' and 'economic experts' and yadda yadda yadda is fundamentally rooted in the principle of telling a bunch of complete bullcrap and just expecting everyone to believe it.

Ryjkyjsays...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Obama's entire political career has been built on the premise of "lie and repeat so often that people eventually just believe it". Everything Obama ever said about 'stimulus' and 'transparency' and 'economic experts' and yadda yadda yadda is fundamentally rooted in the principle of telling a bunch of complete bullcrap and just expecting everyone to believe it.


See, here you say the exact same thing twice, one sentence directly after another. It's complete bullshit and yet somehow you believe it. It's exhausting.

Oh, and Nixon was almost half a century ago. The dems have moved on. Using it as a tit-for-tat example doesn't really work.

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