TDS-Poor Pee-Ple (Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients)

Aasif Mandvi heads to Florida to find out why Luis Lebron, a Navy veteran and public assistance recipient, won't submit to welfare drug testing.
Porksandwichsays...

Just like the TSA, a program like this can only expand if it doesn't die on the vine. If they get the results they expect, they need more to "reduce costs further" (ignore the fact that the test costs). If they don't get the results they expect, they will need "more thorough tests" to catch substances they don't test for.

But I agree that politicians should be drug tested regularly, minimally every 2 months. They had the big thing about Clinton and Lewinski and how she could have been a spy and blah blah....and that's why they needed to know all that stuff...having ties that could lead to outside influences. Many drugs pretty much epitomize "outside influences" especially if they are addictive.

Fletchsays...

>> ^Darkhand:

I support this kind of legislation. Even if it's totally wrong at least it will shut up everyone who says that welfare recipients are drug addled losers.

I bet Florida welfare recipients would disagree that the effect you mention justifies the means. I just think if it wasn't drug testing, it would be some other hoop to jump through. This isn't about drug testing.

Darkhandsays...

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^Darkhand:
I support this kind of legislation. Even if it's totally wrong at least it will shut up everyone who says that welfare recipients are drug addled losers.

I bet Florida welfare recipients would disagree that the effect you mention justifies the means. I just think if it wasn't drug testing, it would be some other hoop to jump through. This isn't about drug testing.


You may be right.

But eventually someone SOMEWHERE has to put this theory to test. I'm sorry it has to be anyone but at the very least the citizens of Florida will now be used as a perfect case to NOT implement this sort of legislation anywhere.

MilkmanDansays...

>> ^notarobot:

blocked in Canada. Use modify headers to get around silly geographic silliness
or
use this link: http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with
-jon-stewart/full-episodes/#clip610145


Yarr, blocked in Thailand also. I tried your .ca link here, but it manages to stream a 30 second commercial only to say "sorry, we are experiencing temporary difficulties downloading your lineup". Living in a land of ubiquitous piracy plus running 99% of the time with AdBlock and NoScript has made me very impatient with advertising, DRM, etc.!

Thanks anyway for the alternate ideas, I'm looking up the modify headers solution now.

Fletchsays...

>> ^Darkhand:

>> ^Fletch:
>> ^Darkhand:
I support this kind of legislation. Even if it's totally wrong at least it will shut up everyone who says that welfare recipients are drug addled losers.

I bet Florida welfare recipients would disagree that the effect you mention justifies the means. I just think if it wasn't drug testing, it would be some other hoop to jump through. This isn't about drug testing.

You may be right.
But eventually someone SOMEWHERE has to put this theory to test. I'm sorry it has to be anyone but at the very least the citizens of Florida will now be used as a perfect case to NOT implement this sort of legislation anywhere.


Why?! It's just so random a requirement. To accept it as necessary or reasonable, you first have to buy into the bullshit that needy people are on drugs. It's like requiring drug testing for all gay couples who seek a marriage license, or for all gun owners. It's just a barrier.

It shouldn't be a requirement in Florida or anywhere else, and to rationalize or justify it as some sort of case study that other states can point to is just ridiculous. Welfare recipients shouldn't be treated as guinea pigs just to benefit a few idiots looking to score points with their dipshit lemming constituents.

Darkhandsays...

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^Darkhand:
>> ^Fletch:
>> ^Darkhand:
I support this kind of legislation. Even if it's totally wrong at least it will shut up everyone who says that welfare recipients are drug addled losers.

I bet Florida welfare recipients would disagree that the effect you mention justifies the means. I just think if it wasn't drug testing, it would be some other hoop to jump through. This isn't about drug testing.

You may be right.
But eventually someone SOMEWHERE has to put this theory to test. I'm sorry it has to be anyone but at the very least the citizens of Florida will now be used as a perfect case to NOT implement this sort of legislation anywhere.

Why?! It's just so random a requirement. To accept it as necessary or reasonable, you first have to buy into the bullshit that needy people are on drugs. It's like requiring drug testing for all gay couples who seek a marriage license, or for all gun owners. It's just a barrier.
It shouldn't be a requirement in Florida or anywhere else, and to rationalize or justify it as some sort of case study that other states can point to is just ridiculous. Welfare recipients shouldn't be treated as guinea pigs just to benefit a few idiots looking to score points with their dipshit lemming constituents.


Well that's the problem Fletch, people ARE buying into the fact that welfare people are drug addled losers because that's what the conservative base is selling to them and their party members are just eating it up. Nobody wants to be giving their money away to someone and having them just sort of kick back and mooching when they could be working and making their own money.

It's not about making anyone into Guinea pigs the problem is EVENTUALLY this was going to become a law somewhere. If you keep repeating something, no matter how false it is, and you get other people to repeat it for you this is what happens.

Just be happy we didn't have a conservative president who made this some sort of crazy Federal law for all 50 states to obey.

Me Personally? I know of 2 people that are on some sort of government aid that all use that money to buy drugs and pay for their rent. So I'm sorry to say it DOES happen sometimes.

In an election year this was a mistake for the republicans and a victory for democrats. I try to take some solace in that.

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