No culture is immune to evil activities. It's clear that each side of any conflict is riddled with deception and lies just as much as there also exists love and compassion.

These are truly difficult times....

Or we could all just stop trying to kill each other over race, useless land, and how to properly warship the same invisible magic man.

.lol what a retard he is now a christain lol so stupid moving from one thing bassed on no evidence to another thing thats bassed on no evidence what a fuckwit

Like Westy, I'd definitely be more impressed if he'd given up religion all together.

This is like a drunk joining AA and becoming a born again Christian, it's just transferring one dangerous addiction for another.

part 2?

>> ^westy:
.lol what a retard he is now a christain lol so stupid moving from one thing bassed on no evidence to another thing thats bassed on no evidence what a fuckwit


And you have some epistemological view that is supported by pure logic and no assumption? Kant's Critique of Pure Reason pointed out the limitations of the empirical explanations of science, and Quine's Rejection of the analytic-synthetic distinction destroyed logical positivism.

So far any philosophic or religious understanding lacks exhaustive explanation of everything. Every mode of truth has been struck down as incomplete or lacking in the necessity for it to make the claim that it is objective in nature. Surely the person in the video isn't a fuckwit.

Edit: Removing what could be interpreted as a slam. Thanks bluecliff

^While what you say is completely true I must caution you - westy is no fuckwit.
westy RULES.

I've gotta agree with GeeSussFreeK's sentiments. Blaming the mess in Gaza on religion isn't much better than burning witches. The problem isn't the religious belief per se, but the willingness to accept what you are told without critical thought.

I'd also dare say the strife between jews and arabs that has exists for the last century in Palestine has been primarily a fight over resources and religion has been dragged in as a tool, rather than the other way round. Not that it makes a lick of difference to the unfortunate victims of it all, but it does affect what kind of viable solutions one must look for. Removing religious beliefs from the equation for example will NOT end the troubles.

Jews and Muslims were living in Palestine just fine until antisemitism in Europe drove the Jews out, and they began mass migration back to "THE HOLY LAND" where there was only minor conflicts, street fights, riots, much like you'd see in any major city with large immigrant populations. It wasn't until after WW2 that the violence escalated to the levels we continue to see today.

The Jews wouldn't even be there if it wasn't for their religious beliefs, so claiming religion isn't the cause is just stupid. It's one of the worse places to try and sustain a populace, there's very little arable land to grow crops and livestock on, the only reason to be there is the religious significance of the area.

>> ^HollywoodBob:
Jews and Muslims were living in Palestine just fine until antisemitism in Europe drove the Jews out, and they began mass migration back to "THE HOLY LAND" where there was only minor conflicts, street fights, riots, much like you'd see in any major city with large immigrant populations. It wasn't until after WW2 that the violence escalated to the levels we continue to see today.
The Jews wouldn't even be there if it wasn't for their religious beliefs, so claiming religion isn't the cause is just stupid. It's one of the worse places to try and sustain a populace, there's very little arable land to grow crops and livestock on, the only reason to be there is the religious significance of the area.


Religious significance was only a small part of the reason to be there. Nazi's where a big reason to rule out all of Europe. That there was a lot of available land in Palestine and an existing Jewish population made it appealing on a practical level as well, and I'd dare say if the religious homeland of the Jews happened to be Berlin, they'd have still immigrated away to Palestine through WW2.

I would never say religion isn't a big factor, but I generally believe that practicality and convenience drives religious interpretation as much or more than the other way around.

if sumone is religouse it shows thay are not exactly grate at waying up evidence and bing sceptical to something untill there is good evidence to belive in it.

religoin is just something you can contract when you open your mind up to non critical thinking so yah the rute of the problem in gaza is noncritical thinking. having sead that due to the socail aceptance and group orgies acoseated with religoin it can often infect people who are quite critical rheinkers and sceptic so in some ways i think you can blame religoin as well as non critical thinking.

put it this way if the conflict was secular in gaza would it have happend as long as it has? i think if religoin was involved with east and west berlin back in the 80s there would still be a wall there now

>> ^westy:
if sumone is religouse it shows thay are not exactly grate at waying up evidence and bing sceptical to something untill there is good evidence to belive in it.

I would still have to give the gentleman a lot of credit for having left Islam. Apostates have a death sentence on their heads that is mandated in the Haditha:
'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.' Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Add to that the danger of getting out of a criminal gang like Hamas (Makes quitting the Bloods or Crips look like ditching out on a D&D game).

And he left Islam for Christianity, which as a whole no longer kills people for religeon's sake. Not to say people that are Christian don't kill, but they don't do it over theological differences anymore. The "Slaves of Allah" routinely cut off heads, because they take the Koran literally.
"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Koran 8.12