Russell Brand / Peter Hitchens Debate - Newsnight 2012

(youtube) Russell Brand and Peter Hitchens debate the treatment of drug addicts on Newsnight August 2012
ChaosEnginesays...

I love the way Peter Dickwad (he's not fit to share his brothers name) accuses Brand of "ad hominem and interruptions" and then interrupts him constantly asking "why is this person allowed to debate this". I would ask the same question of you mr Dickwad. What experience do you have that qualifies you to speak knowledgeably about this topic? Who do you represent (apart from the troglodytes that read your tired and witless rants in that pathetic excuse for a newspaper)?
I thought Brand was far too kind and the host utterly failed to moderate the debate.

packosays...

Peter Hitchens makes a good point about Brand not being able to deal in anything other than generalities though... good will, benevolence, etc are attitudes not plans/strategies... and aren't easily tied to a dollar figure... which is what the CRUX of the debate is about... some people place more value on $, some on compassion


Peter Hitchens tries to feign compassion by saying if drug addiction affects one family of course they care... well, compassion isn't compassion if you limit it only to yourself or those that directly affect you... REAL compassion isn't delimited by whether or not you know the person in question or not... REAL compassion is self-less

when the jingle in your pockets affects your "compassionate" view... you don't have a very compassionate view in the first place ( i guarantee some blockhead will try to take this to an extreme, such as "then why don't you give up all your money to help those less fortunate than you" instead of realizing that's not then end of the spectrum where my arguement comes from... it actually comes from reality where people don't wanna have to give up luxury [as opposed to necessity] to help someone that they can just as easily ignore or vilify)

and while the comment earlier about incarceration in the US is "somewhat" on the mark, lets not forget that the US prison system exists as it is primarily because its a private, for profit, industry... which shapes drug policy (gotta have your customer base - i mean inmates)

criminalization has always had an impotent effect on controlling drugs... from prohibition to THE WAR ON DRUGS (and the resulting chaos one finds in Mexico because of it)

there are PLENTY of countries that currently use legalization/rehabilitation as a much better deterrent/control; but we don't want to talk about those... because someone is making money of keeping them illegal, and where'd the poor politicians get their kickbacks from then?

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