Red Letter Media Talks About Prometheus on DVD

Finally, questions will be answered
Fletchsays...

I watched this film the first time expecting more of an "Alien" prequelish movie, but the "Alien" stuff just seemed thrown in as an afterthought. I've watched it several times now and have grown to love it, though. I think it would be better without the "Alien" shit in it at all. There is simply a much bigger and better story here, and with Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender having already signed on for the sequel, it looks like the story will be going where ever they went.

There are some things that don't add up very well, like Charlie getting all depressed because they only discovered dead "Engineers". WTF, dude?!? Anyhoo, the illogical stuff is minor compared to the enormity of the main storyline, imho, and it doesn't bother me. Maybe a director's cut could shed more light. I did understand what was going on much better after seeing it a couple times. A little more exposition, Mr. Scott!

EvilDeathBeesays...

>> ^Fletch:

I watched this film the first time expecting more of an "Alien" prequelish movie, but the "Alien" stuff just seemed thrown in as an afterthought. I've watched it several times now and have grown to love it, though. I think it would be better without the "Alien" shit in it at all. There is simply a much bigger and better story here, and with Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender having already signed on for the sequel, it looks like the story will be going where ever they went.
There are some things that don't add up very well, like Charlie getting all depressed because they only discovered dead "Engineers". WTF, dude?!? Anyhoo, the illogical stuff is minor compared to the enormity of the main storyline, imho, and it doesn't bother me. Maybe a director's cut could shed more light. I did understand what was going on much better after seeing it a couple times. A little more exposition, Mr. Scott!


I think there could have been a much better movie with the same source material, I think the concept could be really cool, but it's beyond a simple reedit repair job. The characters need a total rewrite to not be selfish, unlikable fucktards. There needs to be a lot more explanation and more time spent soaking in each of the more important subject matters and not this jump from one scene to the next with no flow and no reason.

spoco2says...

>> ^Fletch:

I watched this film the first time expecting more of an "Alien" prequelish movie, but the "Alien" stuff just seemed thrown in as an afterthought. I've watched it several times now and have grown to love it, though. I think it would be better without the "Alien" shit in it at all. There is simply a much bigger and better story here, and with Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender having already signed on for the sequel, it looks like the story will be going where ever they went.
There are some things that don't add up very well, like Charlie getting all depressed because they only discovered dead "Engineers". WTF, dude?!? Anyhoo, the illogical stuff is minor compared to the enormity of the main storyline, imho, and it doesn't bother me. Maybe a director's cut could shed more light. I did understand what was going on much better after seeing it a couple times. A little more exposition, Mr. Scott!


In no way was I ever confused by Prometheus. It being confusing was never the issue, it's not deep, it's not well thought out at all.

The issue was the characters do ass backwards stupid things, their motivations are slim to non-existent, and there's zero interesting payoff.

I'm glad you ended up liking it. I wish I could have, because it's a damn pretty movie. It set things up really well, and then, just.... squandered everything it had built.

notarobotsays...

Question: how did the mapping geologist who loves rocks and built amazing probes that scanned a perfect 3D map of the interior of the ship/base manage to get himself completely lost?

Question: Why did the character dialogue suck so bad?

Question: How does this terribly executed film continue to suck time out of my life? Why won't it just go away?



Note: some questions can be answered by following this helpful link.

Fletchsays...

In reply to this comment by EvilDeathBee:
I think there could have been a much better movie with the same source material, I think the concept could be really cool, but it's beyond a simple reedit repair job. The characters need a total rewrite to not be selfish, unlikable fucktards. There needs to be a lot more explanation and more time spent soaking in each of the more important subject matters and not this jump from one scene to the next with no flow and no reason.


I don't know. It seemed like it needed more "epicness". Like you said (or, as I understood you), more time for the viewer to parse the implications of the much bigger picture before they throw up a scene of some slimesnake tickling someone's uvula. Maybe a scene where they just stand around and go "OMFG! We've discovered the greatest discovery in the history of mankind! Oh, shit! That's a fucking alien structure! The first one ever discovered!! This is fucking amazing!!" They just didn't seem too impressed with anything. And I wish they had left the Alien stuff out completely. They didn't need it. There's just a bigger, better story here than the one we've already seen again and yet again in the sequels. Most of the characters did have that ST:TOS red-shirt aura about them, and really served little purpose outside of biting it in creative ways. Could have been better, but I still dug it, and I think the sequel(s) has a chance to be great. I just hope the Engineer homeworld isn't overrun with alien queens or some dumb shit like that.

gwiz665says...

There was a clear problem in that you didn't care for any characters. The most likable character was the homicidal robot, which is a failure in my book. In the original Aliens, you grow to like Ripley and you like the camaraderie going on in the beginning of the movie, even if most of them were fucktards. The marines in Aliens were also likeable, even if you sorta recognized them as the dickheads from high school - some of them were our hook into the world, ripley, hicks, hudson all good. Even in alien 3, you still ahve ripley to hang on to, even if it's a desolate despairing film. Alien 4 you have Winona Ryder-robot to like, where ripley is more.. well, alienated.

in prometheus, I liked the Captain Janek and in a twisted way Fassbender-bot, because he was played well. All their motivations didn't make all that much sense though. I hated Holloway, hated Shaw, hated Vickers, fucking hated all of them. Gah, it's so irritating, because the universe of it is so interesting! aaargh.
>> ^Fletch:

In reply to this comment by EvilDeathBee:
I think there could have been a much better movie with the same source material, I think the concept could be really cool, but it's beyond a simple reedit repair job. The characters need a total rewrite to not be selfish, unlikable fucktards. There needs to be a lot more explanation and more time spent soaking in each of the more important subject matters and not this jump from one scene to the next with no flow and no reason.

I don't know. It seemed like it needed more "epicness". Like you said (or, as I understood you), more time for the viewer to parse the implications of the much bigger picture before they throw up a scene of some slimesnake tickling someone's uvula. Maybe a scene where they just stand around and go "OMFG! We've discovered the greatest discovery in the history of mankind! Oh, shit! That's a fucking alien structure! The first one ever discovered!! This is fucking amazing!!" They just didn't seem too impressed with anything. And I wish they had left the Alien stuff out completely. They didn't need it. There's just a bigger, better story here than the one we've already seen again and yet again in the sequels. Most of the characters did have that ST:TOS red-shirt aura about them, and really served little purpose outside of biting it in creative ways. Could have been better, but I still dug it, and I think the sequel(s) has a chance to be great. I just hope the Engineer homeworld isn't overrun with alien queens or some dumb shit like that.

MonkeySpanksays...

I never thought I'd say this as I am a big proponent of technology, but I think CGI has ruined most movies because acting and story-line suspense too the backseat. I can't believe that after Alien, the best sci-fi movie in my book, we got this??!!! I stopped watching Prometheus after the staple scene; I just couldn't bear myself to finish this garbage. I think Ridley Scott has gone down the mediocre path of George Lucas.

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