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chingalerasays...Maybe he was raised by a family of bivalve mollusks??
Hehehe, a clam adoption agency in ⓢⓟⓞⓝⓖⓔⓑⓞⓑ universe
grintersays...returning* to his evolutionary roots, eh?
..also, why is everyone (or maybe just people who produce pop science content) obsessed with octopus intelligence? Like many cool things that octopus do, this is complex behavior.. but likely innate, and not a sign of intelligence.
*Dear inevitable trolls: I do not mean to imply that cephalopods evolved from bivalves, only that they had a molluscan ancestor with an external shell.
Maybe he was raised by a family of bivalve mollusks??
Hehehe, a clam adoption agency in ⓢⓟⓞⓝⓖⓔⓑⓞⓑ universe
antsays...*downunder *music *kids
Stop playing with your nuts!
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Downunder, Kids, Music) - requested by ant.
antsays...*water
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Water) - requested by ant.
ChaosEnginesays...There is a reasonable body of evidence that suggests octopi actually have reasonable problem solving skills.
When placed in man made situations that they couldn't have encountered before, individuals have demonstrated a remarkable (for an invertebrate) ability to adapt. This would suggest that the abilities are not innate (in the sense of evolved behaviours over generations of trial and error).
..also, why is everyone (or maybe just people who produce pop science content) obsessed with octopus intelligence? Like many cool things that octopus do, this is complex behavior.. but likely innate, and not a sign of intelligence.
grintersays...I'm aware that's the general perception, I just haven't seen any convincing research (maybe I'm a hard ass?).
If you know of some examples, post links here, they would certainly be relevant to this video.
There is a reasonable body of evidence that suggests octopi actually have reasonable problem solving skills.
When placed in man made situations that they couldn't have encountered before, individuals have demonstrated a remarkable (for an invertebrate) ability to adapt. This would suggest that the abilities are not innate (in the sense of evolved behaviours over generations of trial and error).
ChaosEnginesays...There's plenty of articles on the web. This is probably a good starting point.
http://io9.com/5858783/the-growing-evidence-for-octopus-intelligence
I'm aware that's the general perception, I just haven't seen any convincing research (maybe I'm a hard ass?).
If you know of some examples, post links here, they would certainly be relevant to this video.
grintersays...Thanks for the article. It kinda reads like an add for Jennifer Mathers' 'octopuses are smart' book. Her 2008 Consciousness and Cognition paper does a better job at laying out the most cephalopod behaviors impressive behaviors:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053810006001504
. Don't get me wrong; I think cephaolopods totally awesome, but I don't see the case for them being cognitive leaps and bounds above other invertebrates. The behaviors that they are capable of are found elsewhere among inverts, yet people (often encouraged by Mathers or her coauthors on that book) seem to imply they are basically eight armed dogs of the sea:
Behavioral conditioning in the lab (which Mathers likes to call "learning") - Bees, butterflies
Moving objects to close off burrows - mantis shrimp
Carrying objects as temporary refuges - crabs
Individual recognition - wasps, lobsters?, mantis shrimp.
Complex spatial navigation - ants, bees.
Learning via observation - I'm not aware of other inverts that do this, but the cephalopod evidence is also pretty weak.
Maybe there are some more recent, and more convincing results?
Sagemindsays...you put the octopus in the coconut and eat it all up...
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