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siftbotsays...Nuclear energy is awesome has been added as a related post - related requested by ChaosEngine on that post.
kir_mokumsays...a lot of this is pretty dubious.
ChaosEnginesays...Can you provide a bit more detail than that?
What is dubious? Why is it dubious? Do you have any evidence to back up what you're saying?
a lot of this is pretty dubious.
bremnetsays...Sorry to jump the thread here; not sure if dubious is the word either, but pretty amateur and more fear mongering with no supporting data.
First, the suggestion that no more reactors should be built because people use them to aid in production of nuclear weapons. Well kids, that ship has already sailed: In June 2014, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute reported that nine nations (United States, Russia, United Kingdom, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea) possessed approx. 16,300 nuclear weapons in total. So someone builds one or 10 more? Yeah, that will matter. Someone needs to read up on the concept of deterrence.
When talking about waste: "Germany has literally tons of the stuff just laying around" - well, that's just horseshit.
Regarding accidents and number of deaths due to nuclear reactors: "devastating disasters every 30 years" - devastating? Come on, people died, but compared to other sources of energy, according to the WHO, it is by far the safest. Consider:
Energy Source Mortality Rates; Deaths/yr/TWh
Coal - world average, 161
Coal - China, 278
Coal - USA, 15
Oil - 36
Natural Gas - 4
Biofuel/Biomass - 12
Peat - 12
Solar/rooftop - 0.44-0.83
Wind - 0.15
Hydro - world, 0.10
Hydro - world*, 1.4
Nuclear - 0.04
* Includes the 170,000 deaths from the failure of the Banquao Reservoir Dam in China in 1975
So, if not dubious, certainly cheap and pedantic.
Can you provide a bit more detail than that?
What is dubious? Why is it dubious? Do you have any evidence to back up what you're saying?
ChaosEnginesays...Cool, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with @kir_mokum, he just didn't actually make any points.
I agree that nuclear weapons are not really an issue when it comes to building power plants. Personally, I think it's hypocritical in the extreme for the people with the nuclear weapons to tell others they can't have them. I'd much rather no-one had them.
"Germany has literally tons of the stuff just laying around"
Depends on what you mean by "lying around". No, it's not out in the open, but it is just "lying around" in the sense that they have shitloads of it (in one site alone they have nearly 126000 barrels) and they're not doing anything with it. Waste disposal *is* a serious issue with current nuclear technology.
As for deaths, I suppose what gets people about nuclear disasters is that other disasters tend to be more short term. From a media POV: if some people die in a coal mine, that's sad, but they were miners and it's over pretty quick, but dying kids from Chernobyl make great TV!
I tend to agree that it's probably safer in the long run.
Sorry to jump the thread here; not sure if dubious is the word either, but pretty amateur and more fear mongering with no supporting data.
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Paybacksays...T.A.R.D.I.S. on the dumping island. 2:02
CrushBugsays...I can't wait for them to figure out how to shoot the waste safely into the sun. That should do it!
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