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18 Comments
westysays...all it is is a piano that has the components of a real pano just made shorter then uses a processor to remodulate the false sound into the correct sound so u get all the feal of a piano. Id be perfectly happy with a USB midi piano if your going to be this anal about your method of input you might as well drown yourself.
lavollsays...except you have much easier control with the sound compared to a "real" piano.
charliemsays...@ westy.
My understanding of it, is they have modelled the physics of the piano keystrokes, and are taking real-time sampling data based on the force and duration you depress the key to generate a lifelike note, as opposed to the traditional generic sampling of a single note per key.
Ideally it should give a more full sound, with more control over how the note is played, rather than just force > volume as per traditional digital pianos.
This piano has no strings in it, as it is a digital piano...as such, its just some keys, with some springs / dampening to make it "feel" like a real piano, with input to a cpu which synthesizes each note in turn.
spoco2says...Exactly... it's all VIRTUAL. Hence the amount of tuning you can do is amazing on the virtual strings and hammers.
I'd love one of these... but I'd prefer not to have to take out another mortgage to do so.
Also, I can't really play the piano... I just want one in the house to encourage the kids and for me to tinker on, but I don't want to have to keep tuning a real one, and anything in my price range for electric keyboards sound horrible.
lavollsays...theres some awesome technologies in there. playing a modelled piano like for example https://www.pianoteq.com/ feels much more musical and responsive than a sampled piano. because it is actually responding to you playing.
What is potentially so awesome with this piano for me, is that it will be a dream to have in the studio, it will never need tuning, it can easily be tuned in alternate ways, and it can be so many different pianos. wonderful stuff.
neteansays...it all sounds extrememly impressive, but if you really want/need to go to all that trouble to recreate a piano sound, why not just have a real piano?
ObsidianStormsays...Uh, because you can't just pick up a piano and take it to a gig...
mizilasays...^ Uh, you can't just pick up a piano and take it to a gig...
gwiz665says...Hey, that very last thing he played was an Elliot Smith tune! "Everything Means Nothing to Me":
Redsays...>> ^charliem:
Ideally it should give a more full sound, with more control over how the note is played, rather than just force > volume as per traditional digital pianos.
Long time since +-velocity = +-volume, these day the basic sampling will have at the very least 4 samples per tone, but ultimately the synthesizing paradigm will take over for every instrument will it be drum, string, horn, and so on...
westysays...i understand how it works im just saying might as well just get a reli decent usb midi keyboard and get some relay good software save yourself a tun of money and u wont have to lug this thing around , if you realy give an ass about real peano sound then get a real one a anal audience certainly wont appreciate this anny more thay would a midi keybord, so why spend the mony on it when a usb keybord would do just fine and be 10x more practical.
It reminds me of when i used to play hockey and people would buy a stick for 250 pounds when a generic wooden stick for 10 pounds worked just fine ore evan a metal stick with a glass fiber end. i just dont like products where you are paying for bs rather than noticable quality, ovously if your loaded u would never concider the cost of something as an issue and porbably get 30 of these.
lavollsays...well, in the music technology market with the big playeyers it is often like this:
when inventing something new: build something huge, a flagship product
build many smaller products based on flagship tech, and sell a gazillion of those
roland is doing alot of exciting things these days with physical modeling tecnology, stepping away from traditional sampling. maybe a hint of that was when their newest fantom workstations didnt come with those sampling expansion boards, but instead had slots of new physical modeling chips.
so i am predicting that we will see lots of other products based on this piano very soon. maybe with one or two chips instead of 4 etc.
and this reminds me of what i had planned my next sift would be about
sillmasays...how much cash do you have to dish out for one of those?
Xaxsays...It sounds nice, but I have no idea what the video is saying.
chilaxesays...^Can someone re-mix this video with a porn soundtrack so that it holds Xax's attention?
chilaxesays...Technology. It works, bitches.
lavollsays...it will cost about $4199.00 (street) $5995 (retail)
jubuttibsays...Pretty amazing piece of technology, and I know lots of people who would really appreciate something like this. To this day the downfall of every digital piano has been that it never sounds real, because the sound is "played", not "generated" like in a piano. No matter how many samples you put in your software, it'll never have the feel and sound. Of course emulating the process isn't a perfect solution and will still be lacking in many ways (so Steinway & Sons can sleep easy), but it will still give people, for whom the purchase of a real piano (and lets not even mention a grand piano) is either completely impossible or at the very least totally unpractical, better sound and feel for the instrument with the added bonus of major workability with the sound. It's even reasonably priced, what's not to like?
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