here's what I seriously don't understand about these riots... there's rampant pillaging and vandalism, and only today is the police pondering the possibility of using rubber bullets?? wtf? That should've been used 2 days ago.

... hmmm... this video needs one of those spontaneous crime-fighting amateur boxers swooping in and knocking people around...

Its strange, anything happens in northern ireland and its rubber bullets, CS gas and water cannons, but when mobs are burning districts of London, suddenly the Police cant handle crowd control. Weird.

I'm gonna upvote this despite how depressing it is, I think this may be a famous clip demonstrating mans inhumanity to man or some such, or maybe just turds on the rampage.

capital punishment????? for stealing??

No Sir!!

>> ^EMPIRE:

here's what I seriously don't understand about these riots... there's rampant pillaging and vandalism, and only today is the police pondering the possibility of using rubber bullets?? wtf? That should've been used 2 days ago.

How would baton rounds stop what you see in this video? It doesn't matter what the police use, its an issue of manpower. These scum know the Police is stretched, so they take advantage like the opportunistic vultures they are.


Why hasn't a heavy hand been used? Well, its partly political (Tories government is basically afraid of stepping on the lower classes and don't want to compromise the "image" of London before the Olympics - A little late for that imo) but also purely practical. The police can't risk seriously injuring or even killing a civi, criminal or not, it would likely incite more violence. Further more, things like Water Cannons just aren't useful against this type of Riot. This is almost "Guerilla" looting and arson.

Personally I feel that if this goes on they need to really consider a curfew, although I'm not sure how practical it would be to actually implement.

I hope someone recognize this thief in this video. What did that thief steal anyways? I couldn't see clearly.

Deal with crowd control how the Romans would have done it

Commit suicide before the rioting mobs can capture you?>> ^chilaxe:

Deal with crowd control how the Romans would have done it

SKy News in the UK is reporting that Police have identified one of the punks in this video

>> ^moodonia:

SKy News in the UK is reporting that Police have identified one of the punks in this video


Excellent!

The beaten student has been identified as Mohd Asyraf Haziq, a 20-year-old student from Malaysia. http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1037452--outrage-grows-as-victim-of-london-samaritan-robbery-faces-surgery?bn=1

I'm guessing that effectively policing a community, dealing with dynamic violent mobs, maintaining the balance between reasonable force and heavy handedness, managing and deploying limited resources etc. are complex subjective issues that none of us fully understand.