Letterman to O'Reilly: "60% of what you say is crap"

theo47says...

Dave, ever the genial host, was being polite. I'm sure he meant 90%.
And the general populace is finally starting to understand that it wasn't the intelligence that was bad, it was the unintelligents who cherry-picked it.

BoneyDsays...

Say what you like about Bill, but he's well prepared, quick witted and persuasive. If you're gonna attempt get someone as influential as he off the air, then you must have someone prepared to debate and shut down his every bigotted/fact-twisted point.

Value judgements about a person (eg. "I call you 60% a lier, sir") are too easily countered, and serve only to martyr their position.

Edit: BTW... Yes, you're right pho3n1x. It is MI5 (http://www.mi5.gov.uk/)

conansays...

Ahh sorry but it´s actually MI-6. The MI-5 only is for inside the british boarders, MI-6 is for the rest of the world. Our beloved James Bond for example works for MI-6.

Slyrrsays...

Wumpus laid his finger on the sore no one wants to talk about, right there. The typical liberal-minded leftist sees clips like this where a like-minded liberal hits them with an insult, and say "How can anyone believe O'Rielly?"

When they actually try to debate them on equal terms, the leftist will (almost) always revert to type and start calling them names and/or making it personal in some way. Liberals and leftists don't say what they think - they only can say what the feel. And they substitute the emotional satisfaction of the insult (and hearing their like-minded freinds cheering and clapping at it) with the intellecutal satisfaction of actual victory.

To his credit though, at least he was more or less admitting his own leftist bias, as opposed to most news people who are still pretending they're objective.....

daphnesays...

"...leftist will (almost) always revert to type and start calling them names and/or making it personal in some way."

That definition fits Conservative Right wingers, too.

Instead of "Left" and "Right" perhaps a better category is "Extremes." All of us in the middle need to get together, otherwise the Extremes will continue to run amok.

theo47says...

I see the O'Zombies are repeating Bill's boasts of high viewership. As if that spoke anything about the quality or accuracy of the program. A lot of people watched "American Gladiators", too.
But if you really want to talk ratings, Wumpus forgot to mention that O'Reilly's and FOX News' as a whole have been nosediving. As the administration goes, so goes FOX, it would appear.

Slyrrsays...

? Thought USA today (no conservative paper, that one) reported Bush's approval rating just recently 'up' to 44%. How do you 'nosedive' from mid-30s (summer) to 44?

If FOX is 'nosediving' in the same way (can I get an AMEN), then things must be looking pretty good for them.

In terms of market share, viewership and the like, it's true that Fox is going down. But numbers for everyone else (CNN, CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, et. al) are going down proportionally across the board. That has nothing to do with politics - it has to do with the fragmentation of media in general. There are dozens of channels competing for market share.

One of the things that the 'major' networks gripe about all the time is this fragmentation of the media. You hear them constantly pine for the 'good old days' when there were only 3 channels you could get your news from, and they could tell you what to think about anything with no opposing viewpoint. Now they have to (gasp) actually try to persuade people - and if Letterman is a prime example as an entertainer, they've proved already that they can't do it.

pho3n1xsays...

who cares whether the approval rating went up or down to 44%. 44% is horrible and is nothing to brag about. "oh, well he's doing better things!" whatever. it's easy to do better things and gain approval when your approval rating is so low to begin with. imagine scoring 44% on a test. your car is 44% functional. the glass is 44% full... it's not even half-full man! how anyone can believe/support this administration anymore is beyond me.

Riftersays...

Approval rating of 44% across a nation that a very high percentage of the poeple can not recall the name of our vice president, really doesn't say much. There is a near complete political apathy in our country. Most people's views on politics come from 15 second sound bites in the evening news, or from a friend that watched the evening news. Letterman is as big of a moron as those people. This segment just showed the height of his ignorance.

phelixiansays...

Other intelligence saying the same thing??? What utter shit. We had intelligence coming in from every angle telling us there weren't WMDs. We had to MANUFACTURE evidence in the form of yellow cake from Niger that NEVER existed. Come on Bill get a clue or step the fuck off.

"M16" no sorry Bill that's the weapon of choice to kill civilians overseas in the name of democracy.

Freedom fighters blowing up women and children? Hmm.... 250,000 Iraqi civilians dead.. Hmm....

johnald128says...

these two are good friends, and clueless. people should stay away from this stuff, they're just spewing out meaningless fodder for the stupids that buy into propaganda

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