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The Day They Kicked God out of the Schools

Wumpus says...

"Self-enforced morals are usually stronger than externally enforced morals, because you would have arrived at the morals through your own reasoning."

But where are you going to get these self-enforced morals? What's your moral base? What's your compass? As responsible citizens we have a duty to act in the interest of the greater good; so to speak. And to a certain degree, there is room for interpretation and comparison. When you find yourself in a morally or ethically compromised position, who/what/where do you turn to for guidance that will help you do the right thing and be a better person? I'm not saying that you have to be religious to do it, but it helps. As a matter of personal reflection, who you hold your self up to as a measure of personal measurement?

To touch on Tofumar's response,
1)Yes I do believe that religion does serve as a standard of behavior but what the public schools can't to is impose a religious value set on its students, but they can't forbid its students from practicing their religion freely (as long as it doesn't disrupt normal operation of said school).

2) What this video is trying to show is that there has been a slow and gradual erosion of traditional values and standards in our society. You may not realize it (depending on your age), but you should talk to someone who was in school 30 or 40 years ago and see how life has changed. We have continually lowered that bar of what we call "acceptable behavior" and every time someone comes to the table with a complaint of how they think things should be done in school, the school always caves. It's a small sample of the greater problem of how children are being set-up for failure in the future by always expecting less of them. And whenever there is an episode of some horrific act of student violence, it never happens in a vacuum. It is always preceded by a systematic chain of failure by the people around them, which includes but is not limited to the schools.

The Day They Kicked God out of the Schools

Wumpus says...

"a better question is 'What part of that video is NOT nonsense?'"

How about this, raising children in a society that placates to political correctness where there are no standards and no judgments on bad behavior. This video not not specifically about God being removed from schools, it's saying that it was the beginning of a downward slide. It is not that God will keep your kids in line out of some supernatural fear but religion sets a standard of behavior and that there are certain things expected of you. When you remove the standards, you also remove any guidelines that children need in order to grow up with any sense of right and wrong.

Any critical thinker can take any one of these points in the video and see that they all have some adverse consequence. Seriously ask yourself what possible good can come of removing physical discipline or any disipline for that matter when the situation warrants it? What good can come of allowing underage students to have abortions and not have to inform parents? If you want to take Clinton episode and analyze it, the moment when he engaged in an extra-sexual affair outside of his marriage and lied about it, got caught and defended it; that behavior became acceptable. After all if our leaders can engage in this behavior and come away with no consequences, it must be perfectly all right for anyone else to to it. When you lie under oath and get away with it publicly, it sends a message of acceptance to the population. It was wrong when Clinton did it, and it was wrong when Libby did it.

I could go on.



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