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15 Comments
blankfistsays...*promote futility!
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Wednesday, May 12th, 2010 12:14pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter blankfist.
demon_ixsays...I'm not a US citizen, but fuck it. Instead of all the talk, why doesn't Texas secede already? I'm interested in seeing it happen, just for kicks
happyTurtlesays...I wouldn't cry a single tear if Texas or Alaska or a few other states succeeded. It would instantly raise the IQ of the USA
nanrodsays...I love how this Rockwell Dipsh*t says its thrilling that people are coming to the conclusion that "this current regime" is unconstitutional as if the points he's trying to make apply only Democrat presidents
billpayersays...Yeah, fuck off Texas, Arizona, Alaska and all the retarded Republican dumb ass Evangelical states.
NordlichReitersays...Read a little bit about Texas' statehood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas#Statehood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
Texas v. White U.S. 700 no state can unilaterally secede.
I get the feeling that people on both sides of the argument don't know half a cup of shit about the history or just how complicated the whole thing is.
kronosposeidonsays...Justice Scalia sez there is no right to secede. Not my favorite justice, that's for certain, but his argument on this issue is pretty sound.
However, any group of people can attempt to secede, and if they succeed (like the US did from Great Britain) then they have all authority they need to justify it. Such is the way the world works.
Back to the topic at hand, these guys are full of shit.
blankfistsays...@kronosposeidon: Scalia also quotes the Declaration of Independence as a legal document. And he's recently famous for this quote while talking about secession: "the United States cannot be sued without its consent"
Where's the "of, for and by" in that quote?
bobknight33says...>> ^billpayer:
Yeah, fuck off Texas, Arizona, Alaska and all the retarded Republican dumb ass Evangelical states.
You are the retard billpayer. Arizona, Texas and Alaska are all good states. Maybe it the Leftest such as you that need to leave this great country and take all you leftest friends and illegal aliens with you. This country don't need your kind.
volumptuoussays...>> ^bobknight33:
This country don't need your kind.
Hahahahaha... "this country don't need your kind"
Sorry, but our kind (I'm assuming you mean everyone who isn't a racist Glenn Beck enthusiast) foots the bill for every red state in this country. This country DOES need our kind much more than we need them.
But I guess my kind likes to use stuff like facts and data, where as your kind shits on their keyboard and thinks that's enough of a valid argument.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
siftbotsays...Moving this video to blankfist's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
Lawdeedawsays...>> ^volumptuous:
>> ^bobknight33:
This country don't need your kind.
Hahahahaha... "this country don't need your kind"
Sorry, but our kind (I'm assuming you mean everyone who isn't a racist Glenn Beck enthusiast) foots the bill for every red state in this country. This country DOES need our kind much more than we need them.
But I guess my kind likes to use stuff like facts and data, where as your kind shits on their keyboard and thinks that's enough of a valid argument.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
Sadly, "footing the bill" is not quiet accurate. See, to foot the bill would imply paying the bill. Bill would imply the total bill. We pay what, 10% of our bills as a nation? Our spending is insane... We don't even foot the tip for dinner sir... That is normally 15%... Even if we got rid of defense spending and social security, and half the red and blue states' massive expenses, we still would not foot the bill. Unless I am missing trillions being paid on the bills somewhere.
Lawdeedawsays...I love how we pretend we have 50 states when this seems to be an issue of one massive state with 50 subsections. If the federal goverment wanted to ban gay marriage, medical marijuana, and command police to whip gays in the face with chains, then every state would be required to follow those laws. Yes, the courts would throw all those laws out as discriminatory or frivolous, except not all those laws have been thrown out. Great to know nothing can protect us from those types of laws.
When only one branch has power (the federal government,) we are all less powerful.
NetRunnersays...United States Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2:
Which is to say, once your state decides to become part of the United States by legally becoming a party to the Constitution, you can't ignore the supreme law of the land.
The Civil War pretty much settled the question of secession. You can't pull up stakes and leave the union unilaterally. You can try, of course, but if what you're looking for is a peaceful way to do it, claiming you already have the legal right to do so just won't cut it.
Maybe you should try to get Congress to pass a law stating you're allowed to leave the Union. Better still, a Constitutional amendment that provides a legal mechanism for secession.
Until then, plan on all 50 states remaining a part of the United States, and bound by the laws passed by Congress.
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