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The YT link above is broken. Use this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/chavis-carter-shot-jonesboro-police_n_1730997.html

>> ^CrushBug:

The YT link above is broken. Use this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/01/chavis-car
ter-shot-jonesboro-police_n_1730997.html


Thanks, all fixed now.

Clearly the work of a time-traveler who phased in shot the guy and phased out. I'm guessing that the guy was going to be the father of someone down the line who would fight in the resistance or something.

I have my sources...

It's 100% possible to shoot yourself in the temple while handcuffed behind the back... regardless of what hand you are.

Um, Huh? (Sarcasm?)
>> ^TheSofaKing:

It's 100% possible to shoot yourself in the temple while handcuffed behind the back... regardless of what hand you are.

No sarcasm. An exercise most Law enforcement instructors perform is showing recruits what a person is capable of doing while handcuffed. Behind the back doesn't limit you that much if the palms are facing each other. A person handcuffed in this fashion can still access and control a handgun, including shooting forwards or his own head.

I'm not making any comment on this specific incident because there are too many possibilities, but I'm just saying that what Cenk is saying is impossible is actually easily possible. >> ^Sagemind:

Um, Huh? (Sarcasm?)
>> ^TheSofaKing:
It's 100% possible to shoot yourself in the temple while handcuffed behind the back... regardless of what hand you are.

Seriously though, I'm with Sofaking on this one. It isn't like he was strapped to a bed with his hands at either side. We'd have to see the range of motion that was possible in this particular situation to determine whether or not it was "impossible."

This is a very very unusual case, but one of the most compelling things about it is the fact that they left him handcuffed. It just doesn't make sense. If they were going to claim he did it, they could have easily uncuffed him after shooting him and then said he never had the cuffs on. It just doesn't make sense.

Yes, it sounds amazingly suspicious, but I feel like a lot of people who didn't see the specifics are taking the media's word for the exact details when we really don't know how much he could move his hands.


Let's get specific: Put your hands behind your back. Assume you have a gun right in the small of your back. You can easily reach it if you have about six inches of movement and maneuver it around.

Here's yet another scenario... the guy gets his gun from behind his back and makes an attempt at shooting the chain between the cuffs and accidentally shoots himself in the head as he leans over to try to see if he's got the chain in the right place. See? No suicide, no motive for the cops, just a kid trying to get out of the cuffs with the gun he has.

Or it could be the time-traveler.


just sayin'

Even if he had a guy there is no plausible reason to shoot oneself. Sure he was in big trouble and most likely would end up going to jail. But still I would take jail than death. Foul play.

Sounds bad. But just leaning my head back and trying to look behind me gets the temple of my head far enough out that I could theoretically shoot myself in the head without hitting myself anywhere else. I can see it being a possibility. But they really suck at frisking if they couldn't locate the gun on the guy, and that in and of itself is something that should be looked into....at the very least he could have killed both of them or someone at the station when they brought him in. That's where my suspicion lies, that they failed to find a gun in the first place not that he could have shot himself in the head. After all they are supposed to be professionals, and there was two of them...finding a weapon as big and bulky as a gun should be in their wheelhouse.

Should be pretty easy to establish whether he fired a gun (paraffin test for residue) and what the caliber of that gun was.

I've never known Cenk to be wrong before, though...





lol

Unless I missed it, there is no mention of a gun...his gun...that should be in his hand or somewhere around him...? Did I miss that? Wouldn't that be an important point to mention?