smells like bullshit to me.

I've no particular interest in his side of the story. He's a proven liar, with absolutely no credibility. The only thing we know for sure is that he's a short-sighted idiot...who's either unable or unwilling to think things through before acting. Precisely the kind of person who should not be carrying firearms, and a great example of why I support stronger gun control laws.

Idiots should not have guns!

Moving this video to grinter's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

*promote .. because if he is acquitted and the country riots, we should know the kind of arguments that the jury was presented with.

Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued - promote requested by original submitter grinter.

6:20-6:30 he says Trayvon circled his car. Sounds very intimidating if true, but he never made mention of it that I remember in the 911 call and I think it's something you would note that this guy is outside your car circling it and reaching into his waist band.

Immediately following that he sounds like he's spit balling to me. He couldn't remember which of the TWO streets he was on in his neighbor hood.....

And in the 911 call you can hear him say "he's running" and then exit the vehicle and what sounds like fast-walking/running for a bit due to the wind and his breathing. He makes no mention of getting out to get an address that I can recall in the 911 tape.

8:40 ish, his recounting is much much slower than the time it took place on the 911 call. And I don't recall them asking him if he still wants a police officer.

8:50ish he brings up the "Are you following him?" question from dispatch and then telling him they don't need him to do that.

From the 911 he says he doesn't know the address of where he is. Matches up with his not seeing a street address. But there's two streets in his neighborhood it looks like on google map...so ...seems hinky to me. It's not an overly complex place to just give them landmarks to get to him if he had to.

Then he gives them his address and asks for the officer to call him so he can tell him where he's at.

11 and on sounds made up to me. At 14, someone coming out and him having a coherent conversation goes against witness testimony talking about him being in a daze and seeming out of it when they were talking to him.

So yeah, I think he's mixing enough truth with lies to make it really hard for someone to say otherwise. The tone of this video makes him sound somewhat reasonable, but on the 911 call he was muttering stuff under his breath and talking about assholes getting away and never getting caught...and lots of things not coming up in the 911 call that are in this video...again paint him as the victim when I think anyone else in the situation would have stated they were being circled and driven further away or not exitted the vehicle.

And on top of him perjuring himself along with his wife about how much money he had being off by 150k+ intentionally.......and the website he setup himself with graffiti on OSU black student center....and then all of his myspace accounts that he couldn't delete the content of making him sound like a thug himself and beating charges......

Can't help but feel his true nature came out the night he shot Trayvon and the rest of this is just his act to remain free. Good guy, whose not at all on a power trip or at all over-reacting like his past shows he does when he was brought up on assault charges against a cop, who just wanted to the right thing and protect his neighborhood.

As for trayvon looking around......everything in that video looks the same. He was probably f-in lost if it was getting dark....all of the houses/apartments/condos are the same color and mostly the same shape for most of the video.

He's a hero in my book, but many would call me a "redneck hick" so I really don't give 2 shits about retarded political correctness. I do believe in a right to protect your home and neighborhood. And I have pulled a gun and fired it on a trespasser before, my situation we had trouble with groups of guys "cruising" the roads late at night drunk, in a small town where usually only half a dozen cops on duty any particular shift, cops were called and told to call back if they were seen again.

This time they had stopped car got out and being loud, cursing, raising hell, my and neighbor called police and were waiting when my neighbor was threatened, I went inside got my gun, fired it once into air, they scattered except 1 ran at me and I shot him, course being scared in the moment I hit him in the thigh and he didn't die but him and his friends were locked up and the guy I shot wound up having to pay restitution to me and my neighbor the judge ruled which even surprised me.

anyhow that was nearly 18 years ago today and yes it was bunch of black thugs but hell trespassers get shot every few months in these areas and in plenty of rural areas.

Let me understand this. He is armed with a loaded weapon and an assailant was suddenly somehow on top of him with his head against the pavement (11:07), but he doesn't reach for his weapon. Instead, he yells out, hoping the nearby residents will save him.

"He just kept slamming and slamming and I just kept yelling help!"

So someone is "slamming and slamming" your head into the pavement, and even though you have a gun, you don't even reach for it. You just lay there, head being slammed into the ground, loaded firearm at the ready, yelling for help while your head is caved in.

Freudian Slip at 11:46 ... [spoiler]"hand on his nose" ... [/spoiler]

It just gets worse from there.

For what it's worth, here's what I believe happened.

Zimmerman was the aggressor through the entire ordeal. He pursued Martin in the first place, he called 911 to report him, he ignored the 911 operator's instructions to stand down, and he confronted Martin, questioning him. Martin probably then told him to go mind his own fucking business (just like you or I would have done) and attempted to leave. Zimmerman than attempted to restrain Martin, by grabbing his arm. Martin shakes off Zimmerman, and attempts to leave again. Zimmerman attempts to restrain him again and Martin, now believing he's being attacked by a complete stranger, defended himself. Then, Martin got the upper hand in the fight, banging Zimmerman's head against the sidewalk, causing Zimmerman to shoot him.. (Or Zimmerman panicked and conveniently hit his own head against the sidewalk a few times....)

Personally, I've known FAR too many people like Zimmerman whose MO is always the same: being the asshole until they get called to the carpet, then magically they become a victim who nary would harm a fly. All of the known facts show that Zimmerman was the aggressor; now all of a sudden he's the innocent? I believe that's called a horse apple in some parts of the US.

>> ^shang:

He's a hero in my book, but many would call me a "redneck hick" so I really don't give 2 shits about retarded political correctness. I do believe in a right to protect your home and neighborhood. And I have pulled a gun and fired it on a trespasser before, my situation we had trouble with groups of guys "cruising" the roads late at night drunk, in a small town where usually only half a dozen cops on duty any particular shift, cops were called and told to call back if they were seen again.
This time they had stopped car got out and being loud, cursing, raising hell, my and neighbor called police and were waiting when my neighbor was threatened, I went inside got my gun, fired it once into air, they scattered except 1 ran at me and I shot him, course being scared in the moment I hit him in the thigh and he didn't die but him and his friends were locked up and the guy I shot wound up having to pay restitution to me and my neighbor the judge ruled which even surprised me.
anyhow that was nearly 18 years ago today and yes it was bunch of black thugs but hell trespassers get shot every few months in these areas and in plenty of rural areas.


I guess if you picked a car and decided it was going to be the guys "cruising", followed it, and provoked it by following you might have an analogy.

1) No trespassing if the guy is on the sidewalk and has reason to be in the neighborhood (which he did).

2) No proof of any wrongdoing besides Zimmerman's word, and Zimmerman's word is garbage. Not even one witness to the events...just parts and pieces through multiple people who "know" Zimmerman and are going to make assumptions based on him being neighborhood watch and the captain of it at that... an "authority" if you will. They'll argue Trayvon's past comes into question because he was supposedly caught with marijuana and probably "dealing" it. But of the two, Zimmerman has a police record which is used as an example of him "learning from his mistakes". And he and his wife got caught for perjury within the last month.

So....I'm not seeing someone who "did everything right and above board" here.

While in your circumstance you were on your own property and had saw your neighbor get threatened and had someone charge you. It's about as clear cut as it gets when it happens on your own property. Be a little different if you shot the guy near his house when he was on his way home after you followed him into a dark walkway when he ran from you.

If he's a hero, we're screwed.

@shang

Right.. don't be a racist asshole sympathizer. Zimmerman is guilty of murder. Plain and simple.

Trayvon wasn't doing anything criminal that night. He was just tryin' to get home.

Trayvon is not a thug. Zimmerman murdered a teenager cause he's a coward.

wrong, the boy is a thug, long wrap sheet, from trespassing, breaking an entering, robbery and drug dealing...

the boys record shows just how much a thug he is and his profile nearly proves the thug was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

actions speak louder than words, and Travon's thug wrap sheet is a mile long, the thug didn't even live in the neighborhood and had been stalking it before. And had been arrested for robbery with a weapon just 6 months prior to his getting shot.

the thug deserved it.

trespassers will be shot on sight. Zimmerman is a hero, and deserves a medal for being a true American that uses his rights and doesn't get brainwashed by political correctness or media propaganda that spins lies to turn everyone against gun users.

Hell the media and political correct movements have even spun the word militia to mean hate group nowdays. Even though I was both a member of militia and national guard.

Trayvon was and is a thug, the boy had a wrap sheet a mile long, and had already been busted for robbery with a weapon before. Case closed, only reason Zimmerman is on trial is all the political correct retards spamming.

You're a trolling shit head. Trayvon never had a criminal record.

What you read in a FoxNews.com article about Trayvon's school suspensions DO NOT count as a "mile-long [sic]wrap sheet".

Skipping class, having an EMPTY baggie on him, and carrying jewelry that wasn't reported stolen DO NOT make Trayvon a thug, criminal or a "bad person"

Trayvon was a person, flesh and blood. Just like you, you asshat.

Even if he engaged in criminal acts in the past, like George Zimmerman who assaulted a police officer..

Trayvon was minding his own business that night. Then was hunted down and murdered.

Step outside your little hateful, willfully ignorant bubble, @shang

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And I'd love to see where you got that information from shang. Haven't heard trespassing, breaking and entering, and the robbery angles yet. Have heard stolen jewelry and drug dealing.

On the other hand......Zimmerman was in court over domestic violence and took a deal on what was originally police assault with felony charges. And it's actually IN the court records.

And didn't live in the neighborhood? Troll comment.

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I got suspended a few times from school...I guess I can't go outside today for fear of getting shot. Oh wait I'm white! So I can do whatever I want...and thus we reach the truth of the matter.