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CrushBugsays...That was very informative. This video deserves more votes than it currently has. *promote
siftbotsays...Invocations (promote) cannot be called by CrushBug because CrushBug is not privileged - sorry.
Zonbiesays...*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Friday, October 12th, 2012 12:23pm PDT - promote requested by Zonbie.
sillmasays...hmmh...meh, oversimplifies things. Some of these matters are not really "fixable" by fighting against them, but looking for the root of the fault which is buried deeply into the culture, and that's gonna be a bitch to change.
Rape is the first thing that should be addressed in my opinion, but I don't see that changing anytime soon no matter what they wear. I almost find it insulting how trivially this clip takes on the problem, of course most of the world knows women should have the right to walk without the fear of being raped, or at least I have that kind of image in my head, call me naive if you will. And people treat EVERYTHING as a joke, why should rape have exemption from this? Of course he could have meant that we don't take rape seriously enough, but if that is the case he should have worded it better.
Valid points and what should be just common sense on the pro choice and sexual health subjects, I'd say I don't understand why this is even a subject anymore, but knowing what kind of whackjobs get into power nowadays it is a small wonder that things are as "good" as they are. Yet another thing that's being oppressed by religious zealots and/or by values that are drawn from religious values. It also sickens me to use the word "value" for such things.
All in all, these problems and the reasons behind them are convoluted and these kinds of clips don't do much to fix them, and work just as mediocre awareness adverts if anything, which is a good thing, I guess.
//and what I mean by "not fixable by fighting against them" is that to me it seems most people are just fighting against the concept of the things and not against the root of the problem.
tsarsfieldsays...Nurses aren't underpaid. Average pay for a staff nurse is 60k to 72k per year in the US not including overtime.
The pay gap is bullshit too. It was "discovered" by taking the average pay of every job in the US per man and per woman and boom! Women come down on the short end of the stick as they are more likely to be in the service industry and paid under the minimum wage but they make it up in tips.
There is no such thing as a rape culture. There is a culture of fear in the US that is actively promoted by media outlets because it sells.
This guy is just ... bleh.
mentalitysays...Nurses are underpaid? It's easy to make six figures a year with some overtime, and all that for a just a BA degree is pretty good. Not to mention you can make even more if you specialize or become a nurse practitioner. And while there percentage of male nurses is small, it is significant; saying that nursing is a sign of gender pay inequality is just pure bull shit.
And the "rape culture" and slut walk is pretty ridiculous too. Yes, women absolutely have the right to dress in whatever fashion they want to without fear of harassment. But the world is not some ideal utopia, and there are people at the fringes of society who do not abide by civilized rules. It's fucking useless to lecture them about gender equality and tell them that rape is bad mmmmkay? What the policeman said was crass, but it's common sense that if you dress provocatively, you're going to get a lot of attention, both good and bad.
antsays...*nsfw
siftbotsays...This video has been flagged as being Not Suitable For Work - declared nsfw by ant.
jubuttibsays...I don't really understand how you can say "If you don't want to get raped, don't dress like a slut", as if raping sluts is somehow normal or more approved of. Raping anyone is bad, whatever their profession is. Though I do agree with the similar sentiment that "If you don't want to be thought of as a slut, don't dress like a slut." Just like (borrowing from Dave Chappelle) if you don't want to be thought of as a policeman don't go wearing a police uniform.
About the equal pay, they go on about it here too, but it's frankly just bullshit. They get the statistics by running together averages of every job but neglect the fact that if you take a man and a woman who do the same job and have equal experience, they get equal per hour pay. The fact that women on average end up in lower paying jobs and/or do less hours is another issue entirely. If we "equalized" the wages like they're suggesting it'd lead to a situation where women get paid more for less work, which is even less equal.
The microaggression thing... Really? People take the words that seriously? What the fuck is wrong with people? And aren't most swear words in English actually religious in origin, rather than sexual in nature? And even then, I can't think of a single swear word that says "what women do during sex is bad and humiliating". Any suggestions?
Reproductive health... Well, the American medical system is fucked up beyond recognition anyways, so par for the course. Good luck with that.
Media representation is a pretty valid point though, but I must say you don't really see a wide variety of men either, they're largely homogenized in very similar ways to how women in media are usually portrayed. And to the sheer amount of women on TV... I'd like to think that if more women were better at it than men, then there'd be more women there. I don't want a 50/50 split just for the sake of equality, I want the best people to do the jobs whether they're men or women.
messengersays...*Canada
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Canada) - requested by messenger.
spawnflaggersays...This video does not contain 2 named women having a conversation about something other than a man.
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