"It's my fucking business, fuck off" is exactly the correct position on drugs.

I bought this dvd from his site and it's great stuff. If you want something you can watch 5-10 times over, get it.

i was following his 'political' career with glee, of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Stanhope#2008_presidential_campaign

I like it.

He seems to be channeling Bill Hicks.

"I have the right to do whatever the hell i want to my own body" I can level with this argument and I personally believe marijuana should be legalized. It just seems unfair here in Canada where we have universal health care. Why should we be taxed to take care of people deliberately killing/hurting themselves? Not that I'm saying weed kills, it might i have no idea.

^Assuming you are speaking on behalf of more dangerous drugs (heroine, pain killers, speed, etc.): would you rather pay for those that need medical/mental treatment to spend a bunch of time in prison or would you rather pay for their treatment and stop paying on their appropriate release?

As far as weed goes, the lethal dose you'd have to ingest is ~1500 lbs. in under 15 minutes (that is the general consensus, I don't think anybody has done that)

aniatario, you realize sugar is one of the worst substances you can put in your body, right. The thing is that the illegal substances are far more harmless than the legal ones. Driving is a very dangerous activity. Watching TV instead of moving around costs the healthcare system big money. People who want to do more dangerous things are more calm and reasoning in times of crisis. With the complexities of the universe and life on this planet it would be impossible to label any one activity as wrong unless it has a direct impact on other beings. I believe dangerous activities should only be punished when they hurt others. People who push the limits of body and mind are IMO more beneficial to humanity than detrimental.

Wow, those sentences are all over the place but if you can see the whole out of the parts you get a pretty good idea of my feelings.

-Karl -no time for editing AtM.

Hey guys, first off thanks for the quick response. I wasn't suggesting throwing people in jail for their drug habits, if that was working the war on drugs would've been a cakewalk. Speaking of cake, ya i can see where your coming from Karl. However, I'm skeptical as to whether or not every single drug should be made legal, maybe a more lenient anti-drug policy would do the trick? I believe some laws and repercussions can have a positive impact on human behavior.

I'm not saying sick people should be denied health care, even if its self-inflicted everyone should have the right to receive medical help. But at the same time, is it really fair for the majority of the population to take care of people with dangerous habits? I guess I'm just conflicted. As you were saying about weed, ya its impossible to OD and theres some serious doubt on whether or not it causes cancer, but it can still cause some respiratory problems later in life.

rottenseed: The dangerous thing about weed is that if you do it regularly it accumulates in the body, afaik.

But meh, I think it should be legal the same way as alcohol. That is, if you can be a danger to others you should not be allowed to do it (such as when driving a car), but in your own home? Smoke your balls off, for all I care.

for the record, I don't smoke weed. In fact, based on my experiences with friends that became hardcore pot heads, I think stoners are usually lazy, filthy, disgusting people. But so are fat-asses, and who am I to stop them from eating? It's not my business. Nothing wrong with taking a hit on occasion, just like there's nothing wrong with eating appropriately. I guess the fault is when people can't moderate. Excess is the real epidemic, not drugs or obesity.

Aniatario, you have located the problem. Having this universal let us all chip in and help absolutely anyone business prevents us from being able to decide what we want to do with our lives.
Instead, the decisions are often made by a small group of people who have proved time and again unable to make sensible fact-based decisions.

In the UK, they are moving weed to a high class drug apparently to send a message to young people that it is unacceptable, even though studies made are saying that the drug correctly classified. To change the drug status would, in my opinion, send young people the message that to smoke weed is even cooler now...

>> ^toast:
In the UK, they are moving weed to a high class drug apparently to send a message to young people that it is unacceptable, even though studies made are saying that the drug correctly classified. To change the drug status would, in my opinion, send young people the message that to smoke weed is even cooler now...


You've got to be kidding. Higher class drug? What's the point of a drug classification if there are no standards in classifying them. Alcohol should be above weed any day.

^gwiz665:
rottenseed: The dangerous thing about weed is that if you do it regularly it accumulates in the body, afaik.


True. If I stop smoking today, I'll still be stoned for the next 2-3 years...

*drugs

*drugs ^you of all people should know you can't send a post to *drugs channel if sober...

Adding video to channels (Drugs) - requested by kulpims.