Did a 3D Laser Printer Kill A Bay Area Couple?

Massive media misinformation. A 3D Printer has no similarity to a Laser Cutter. The biggest similarity to a commercial laser cutter that is more traditionally used (and usually a lot larger) is a CNC router. Recently, before I took a job at one of the top software companies in the world, I worked at a company that utilized a CNC router so I know for a fact that these machines are usually hooked up to HUGE ventilation system that "sucks" material down (you use other material around the material you are cutting, to cover holes on it's surface to increase pressure) through the machine and out because they are potentially very dangerous, just like a smaller laser cutter in small quarters.... Needless to say, very sad.
shagen454says...

I don't think that is what he was saying. My interpretation was that he was citing (a recent slew of misinformation) of media claiming that 3D Printers are harmful and in this case the cause of death ; of which a 3D printer would not be able to cause carbon monoxide poisoning, which is way more likely to have been a laser cutter.... No, he's trying to stick up for 3D Printers, of which may contain lasers (not very likely since it's not very commercial yet) and a completely different production method (additive). Obviously, there are A LOT of people with 3D printers in the Bay Area.

newtboysaid:

That's not how you pronounce epitome.

Is he saying there aren't 3d laser printers? There are. Some use lasers to activate and solidify the medium they are printing with...not all. Sorry dude, you're wrong. Maybe this report is a case of misidentification, but the statement that laser 3d printers don't exist....that's just a bold faced lie.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Laser-3D-Printer-Stereolithography-at-Ho/

shagen454says...

Here you go, don't test the nerds

Oct 22, 2015
"To call the Glowforge a 3D laser printer isn’t quite right. But the liberties the machine’s three co-founders have taken with the name are really more for the sake of having an intelligible way to describe a working laser cutter that’s the size of a desktop yet can perform the functions of the hulking, 700-plus pounds, $10,000-plus laser CNC cutter-engravers that are found in makerspaces and garages.
“I had a traditional laser cutter in my garage, and I would show it to people all the time,” says co-founder Dan Shapiro. “They would say, ‘Your laser printer is amazing.’ I’d say, ‘That’s not a laser printer.’ … At some point I learned the business advice that you’re supposed to be learning from your customers rather than lecturing to them.”
The machine Shapiro and co-founders Tony Wright and Mark Gosselin have created from their headquarters in downtown Seattle is really a laser cutter. It’s a subtractive manufacturing tool, as opposed to the additive nature of 3D printers." - Fortune Magazine

shagen454says...

Even if they DID make their own desktop sized 3D Laser Printer... it's beside the point. Those machines aren't big enough to create enough carbon monoxide to kill people. The kind that I worked on a Gerber Sabre is fucking MASSIVE. So, it has huge ventilation systems built in for that reason.

newtboysays...

That's how I take him saying "a magical device that doesn't exist". If he means 'stop calling it something it isn't', he should say those words instead of what he said, no?

Edit: I don't disagree with his assertion that 3d printers don't make CO, or his frustration that cutters are being called printers, just his saying laser printers are non existent or magic.

shagen454said:

I don't think that is what he was saying. My interpretation was that he was citing (a recent slew of misinformation) of media claiming that 3D Printers are harmful and in this case the cause of death ; of which a 3D printer would not be able to cause carbon monoxide poisoning, which is way more likely to have been a laser cutter.... No, he's trying to stick up for 3D Printers, of which may contain lasers (not very likely since it's not very commercial yet) and a completely different production method. Obviously, there are A LOT of people with 3D printers in the Bay Area.

shagen454says...

I don't, man - I don't hear what you're hearing haha - his tone sort of gives it away but, yes - he could have been more clear that what Glowforge calls a "3d Laser printer" is a mis-classification since it is a 3D printer. I didn't find that interesting, though. What I found interesting was that media groups have been scaring people on the topic of using 3D printers in their homes and in this case the pinter that killed these poor people was not a regular desktop 3d printer. Which are pretty damn safe if used close to an open window with a fan/ventilation.

Damn, saying the same shit over and over again - like talking about taxes all day lol

newtboysaid:

That's how I take him saying "a magical device that doesn't exist". If he means 'stop calling it something it isn't', he should say those words instead of what he said, no?

Edit: I don't disagree with his assertion that 3d printers don't make CO, or his frustration that cutters are being called printers, just his saying laser printers are non existent or magic.

newtboysays...

4:16
He has a good point about the media being lazy and misidentifying the machines. I'm not sure it's intentional like he seems to think, though. Just lazy, which is bad enough.

shagen454said:

I don't, man - I don't hear what you're hearing haha - his tone sort of gives it away but, yes - he could have been more clear that what Glowforge calls a "3d Laser printer" is a mis-classification since it is a 3D printer. I didn't find that interesting, though. What I found interesting was that media groups have been scaring people on the topic of using 3D printers in their homes and in this case the pinter that killed these poor people was not a regular desktop 3d printer. Which are pretty damn safe if used closed to an open window with a fan/ventilation.

Damn, saying the same shit over and over again - like talking about taxes all day lol

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