this advert comes across as an attack on men , i'm sure there are plenty of inequalities towards women but attacking the issue in a one sided way is simply idiotic and not the most constructive way to improve the situation.

i dont know why but for all these iniqualty typ promotional things they always seem to be put together by morons that do more damage then good. look at stuff like "frag dolls"

The advert would have gone down better if it was about how everyone should be vidulaent to inequality to both sexes and present a solution or tell people what they can do to improve the situation.

I don't see how this could be considered an attack on men in the slightest. Men are referred to in the ad, but for the obvious reasons of comparing how unfair women's wages, sexual treatment, social standards, etc.

Is is not uncommon of men to become instinctively defensive and sometimes stand-offish when this sort of issue comes up; maybe because claiming unfairness of one side implies action required of the other. These issues are a result of the unfair treatment of women by men, but thats not what this ad is pointing out. And its men, not every man.

Let's drill down a bit further - many of these women are oppressed in Islamic societies. I'd suggest bringing that up as something to tackle given that about one-fifth of the world's population follow Islam. Mind you I can't see them having the balls to make him walk out in a burka.

BTW Daniel Craig is worryingly scary dressed as a woman.

Just buy a gun then women. problem solved!

"Worryingly scary?" Deano, he's a striking man dressed as a woman and that scares you? Check that pistol at the door Marge, someone's got wood!

>> ^chipunderwood:

"Worryingly scary?" Deano, he's a striking man dressed as a woman and that scares you? Check that pistol at the door Marge, someone's got wood!


There's a guy in my local area who's a transvestite and he gets it all wrong. He dresses in these skimpy outfits and he's over six feet tall and utterly mannish. There's no way he's getting away with it. And he really does look like some scary freak. That is what Craig looks like and that's what I meant.

Certainly I say all power to you if this is what you like to do but for chrissakes show some taste

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I tend to be against things like International Women's Day, for the same reason I don't like Valentines Day and don't agree with Black History Month. I think we shouldn't need a special day/week/month to respect and show our love for others. That said, it never hurts to remind people that, even in the "Western world", 50% of the people still face issues of equality.

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I can kinda see where Westy comes from.
It seems to suggest that men believe that men and should be equal and are equals. However, I think that most intelligent men know that when it comes down to raw stats, yes the odds are stacked against women in many areas.

However, if a women came up to me and asked, "are we equals?" The question posed is a trap, if I say no, it appears that I believe that men are inherently better than women, and deserve a place as second class citizens, so this answer is clearly undesirable, but if I say yes, I'm more than well aware that for every dollar and man earns, a women earns 79 cents. There is dissonance between what I believe should be and what the current situation is.

So my response would hardly be concise to a question which implies a one word answer.

It is a yes or no question. The answer being yes, followed by a more important second question: Are women treated as equals?/Why aren't women treated as such?


The first question is obviously a rhetorical one, so I still don't see the question as a trap or any reason for any man to get offended or defensive.

I've been reading Ian Fleming's novels lately and I have to question the use of James Bond in support of this cause. Women were highly objectified in the world of James Bond. (Or maybe that's the point and I missed it?)

Thankfully, Craig's facial expression is quite appropriate. I think he's about ready to introduce that obnoxious narrator to the Beretta under his armpit.

I think you're narrowing it down too far. The DRC is far from being an Islamic country (90% Christian of some denomination, 5% Muslim), and yet it is not only oppressive but down-right brutal against its women, by my accounts the worst in the world. Rape is a routine instrument of war by government and militia forces alike, while the vast majority of work is done by them.

Whether you look at Christianity or Islam, both have clearly misogynistic and oppressive elements which are simply ignored in modern societies. I think violence/oppression of women is much better explained by a lack of individual rights and a consistent rule of law and civil society to enforce it.>> ^Deano:

Let's drill down a bit further - many of these women are oppressed in Islamic societies. I'd suggest bringing that up as something to tackle given that about one-fifth of the world's population follow Islam. Mind you I can't see them having the balls to make him walk out in a burka.
BTW Daniel Craig is worryingly scary dressed as a woman.

The second the majority of women can read the instructions and put together their own furniture, then we'll be equals. Until then, no dice.

The second you stop trolling and get rid of your P, we'll consider your thoughts worth while. Until then, no dice.

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>> ^Kerotan:
I can kinda see where Westy comes from.
It seems to suggest that men believe that men and should be equal and are equals. However, I think that most intelligent men know that when it comes down to raw stats, yes the odds are stacked against women in many areas.
However, if a women came up to me and asked, "are we equals?" The question posed is a trap, if I say no, it appears that I believe that men are inherently better than women, and deserve a place as second class citizens, so this answer is clearly undesirable, but if I say yes, I'm more than well aware that for every dollar and man earns, a women earns 79 cents. There is dissonance between what I believe should be and what the current situation is.
So my response would hardly be concise to a question which implies a one word answer.


Then use two words. "Not yet"

>> ^probie:
The second the majority of women can read the instructions and put together their own furniture, then we'll be equals. Until then, no dice.


Real men don't read instructions. We don't ask for directions either.

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