except it doesn't.

...and you know by what qualifications?

http://www.howdovaccinescauseautism.com

Hmmmm. It sure sounds to me like they're saying being born black without a birth certificate causes autism. If that's the only group that showed a correlation, and such a HUGE correlation that it changes the outcome of ALL the data for everyone else, there's something about that group, not the vaccine that everyone else got without effects.
Also, clearly autism is not only blowing up in the undocumented black community, as this guy claims.
Identifying race through school records is TERRIBLE. People fudge that data for different reasons all the time. It certainly is not factual data.

Yeah, this is just bullshit.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/did-a-high-ranking-whistleblower-really-reveal-that-the-cdc-covered-up-proof-that-vaccines-cause-autism-in-african
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I'm really tempted to remove this from the science channel because there's no science going on here. There is plenty of lies and manufactured controversy though.

Do it. This isn't science, it's disingenuous propaganda of the worst variety.
Thanks for the link. I now know after reading that I was wrong, even the 'missing' data didn't change the statistics one way or the other when they're included...so no conspiracy, no change in the data, and no problem with black children suddenly all having autism...sorry.

To your scatalogical expertise, I willingly yield.

To your discernation of scientific analysis...http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/06/david-gorskis-financial-pharma-ties-what-he-didnt-tell-you.html

My expertise is not really scatology in general, but more specifically around bovine fecal detection.

This registers off the scale.

And since you have decided to engage in an Ad Hominem on Gorski rather than refute any of the actual science, I will do the same and ask that if you are going to attack the author rather than the argument, you at least do so using a site that doesn't have Jenny fucking McCarthy as one of it's contributors

Anyway, even if there was a link between autism and vaccination, it would still be the lesser of two evils.

*related=http://videosift.com/video/Penn-Teller-on-the-Anti-Vaccination-Movement

Penn & Teller on the Anti-Vaccination Movement has been added as a related post - related requested by ChaosEngine.

...more like expertise in spreading it...

Ad hom? Gorski is possibly dubious as a source. I do not care enough to vet him. Evidently neither do you. Nor do I about forming a convenient opinion about the issue but am satisfied to learn more about it. You, and others, are satisfied with having a opinion. A basis in knowledge less so it would seem.

You, and you are not alone, engaged in ad hom of sorts at this video. I, frankly, found and find it humorously interesting. Indeed characteristic of you in particular...your "in your face" demeanor. Not that you are alone in the current crop extant at the Sift.

I tend toward approaching others online as would I in person. I find it common, unfortunately all too common, for people to do otherwise online. Regrettable and unpleasant.

...oh, and Penn and Teller...unimpeachable as sources.

Moving this video to chicchorea's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

The thing is, one of us has facts on our side, and the other one is you.

I really don't need to put a lot of effort into refuting this because there are mountains of evidence against it.

As for Penn and Teller, there's a difference between someone illustrating a point using known facts and an actual source.

Anyway, I'm sorry you've decided to buy into this; generally, I think you're a pretty decent guy, but you're simply wrong about this.

With choggie gone you dinks are just looking for other dinks to dink on.

fuckin dinks.

Facts...not really...prevailing opinion, granted. However, prevailing opinion has a way of changing in the fullness of time does it not.

At any rate, I am sorry that you do not understand or believe I don't care. My motivation and intent was not and is not born of conviction or promotion.

However, I am gratified and appreciative for the chance to see the reflection of your true and larger nature and that was more than worth the trip. Thank you and be well. You made it a pleasure.

BWAAAHAAAHAAHHAAHHAA!!!
If you approached others in person as you approach them online, you would be in the hospital constantly recovering from all the fist fights you get in. (edit: I might be too)
TOO FUNNY DUDE! Try reading your posts as if they were written TO you, I think you'll see my point.

...and facts....yes really. Every actual medical study of the subject (there have been many) has always come to the same conclusion, there's no correlation, much less causation. Simple as that.
EDIT: Even the CDD report this video misrepresents said that, no relationship between the two things.

You, sir, have issues...but then, is that not true of all of us.

About this video issue, which is obviously important to you as is seemingly everything else about which you have an opinion...who cares...certainly not I as you fail to grasp. I have no issue with you about it. With you, about you, none still. You do not matter...more and more or rather less and less. You have, indeed, taught me much...too much.

As to your assessment of FTF, about that I will finally and emphatically offer something. Your assessment could not be more erroneous as to progression of any such encounter or the outcome of same. My record is far more extensive than yours and...I will leave it at that and this wholly unsatisfying exchange as well, except for this in parting. You would do much better with Boneremake...but be warned...he secretly has been studying the deadly Bunny Style.

Till then then...but not soon. I'm done. You...have fun.

@newtboy...

out of respect I leave the above in letter.

However, out of appreciation and respect to the profile comment proffered by you and just found I retract the comment about learning more...less as I was happily wrong in the tone of finality. I, indeed, had much more to learn from you.

Thank you. I much prefer this state of affairs.