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newtboysays...Wait for the end?
BSRsays...It's one of those that seems like it will end before it really does. Maybe it's just me though
Wait for the end?
newtboysays...No, I thought that too, since I figured out from the dialogue what was happening by 3:00. I just expect a twist or big payoff when I’m told to “wait for the end”, and instead got almost exactly what I expected.
I found it unbelievable….maybe that’s just me though?
It's one of those that seems like it will end before it really does. Maybe it's just me though
cloudballoonsays...Maybe the dialogue between the Exes is not the "wait for the end" surprise. Rather it's the movement of the camera & the heavy breathing at the last seconds. Meaning somebody else video-recorded the whole thing at a high vantage point and THAT can be used as evidence?
newtboysays...I assumed the heavy breathing, jacket removal, and camera movement were all the woman returning to her apartment with a second recording device in her pocket and camera in her window.
I guess, with the constant surveillance from multiple angles that’s the norm in most developed countries anywhere in public, and the overlooking camera angle, I never considered the idea that it wasn’t being recorded from multiple devices, so I might have missed the point.
I was only surprised she didn’t retrieve the thing he threw in the creek. The device may be destroyed, but the recording isn’t…not that there was a clear confession on it.
Maybe the dialogue between the Exes is not the "wait for the end" surprise. Rather it's the movement of the camera & the heavy breathing at the last seconds. Meaning somebody else video-recorded the whole thing at a high vantage point and THAT can be used as evidence?
cloudballoonsays...Maybe the overlooking (1st person) camera is in the girl's flat (or a collaborator's balcony), the 1st person camera is controlled by her roommate/collaborator. So the whole setup is to have the victim wait for the ex-BF to the pass by the bridge (a routine thing for him?), then catch her ex's audio & visual confession using a remote mic setup. So whether the ex-BF tossed the on-person mic to the river isn't important, since the camera just recorded a fresh physical assault, and a semi-confession of the past sexual assault as well?
I wonder if this is IRL, would the video be sufficient evidence to nail to ex-BF though? What consititue an admission of guilt nowadays? The suspicions of being recorded and his subsequent physical assault (arguably a minor one? But at minimum an invaison of personal space by force?)... a hint of gaslighting is in there too. All of these evidence, what are they worth legally? Is this at least sufficient to get a perma restraining order on him?
I assumed the heavy breathing, jacket removal, and camera movement were all the woman returning to her apartment with a second recording device in her pocket and camera in her window.
I guess, with the constant surveillance from multiple angles that’s the norm in most developed countries anywhere in public, and the overlooking camera angle, I never considered the idea that it wasn’t being recorded from multiple devices, so I might have missed the point.
I was only surprised she didn’t retrieve the thing he threw in the creek. The device may be destroyed, but the recording isn’t…not that there was a clear confession on it.
newtboysays...That was the point to me. That, absent video evidence or a rape kit, only a clear unambiguous confession meets the burden of proof, and she didn’t get it despite the dangerous position she put herself in to get a confession.
I doubt a DA would prosecute on this irl.
In a jury trial it might be enough for conviction, they’re notoriously difficult to predict, but not a non-jury trial.
I think maybe a temporary restraining order could be acquired in America with this evidence, but not permanent….just my opinion though.
All of these evidence, what are they worth legally? Is this at least sufficient to get a perma restraining order on him?
cloudballoonsays...It's a sad state of (legal/justice) affairs
That was the point to me. That, absent video evidence or a rape kit, only a clear unambiguous confession meets the burden of proof, and she didn’t get it despite the dangerous position she put herself in to get a confession.
I doubt a DA would prosecute on this irl.
In a jury trial it might be enough for conviction, they’re notoriously difficult to predict, but not a non-jury trial.
I think maybe a temporary restraining order could be acquired in America with this evidence, but not permanent….just my opinion though.
newtboysays...True, but also a delicate balance of rights vs rights to attempt as a third party with minimal, often conflicting data. I don’t envy courts.
It's a sad state of (legal/justice) affairs
siftbotsays...Moving this video to BSR's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
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