Brutal Doom Version 19 Trailer

The Brutal Doom mod is here: http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom
Song: Knee-Deep in the Dead (At Doom's Gate) by Daniel Tidwell
9547bissays...

It's kind of odd that Doom is remembered for being fast and gory. When it came out, what made it a hit was that it was dark (not the same as 'gory') and tactical (i.e. simple but very well thought out enemies/weapons balance).

Games like RoTT or MK were much more bloody, and back then 90% of the players were keyboarders playing on 386 or early 486, so the game as experienced by most people was hardly 'fast'. I was playing on a 486 DX33 (that's right, 33Mhz of gamin goodness. Suck on that Core i5!) and could not get full screen + full details to be fluid.

braschlosansays...

Quoted for truth

I was paying 20$ a month to have access to a special BBS that tricked Doom into thinking it was on a LAN game. Meaning four player doom over the modem!

At some point I was able to upgrade to a DX4-100 and overclock it to 120mhz like a BAD ASS. A whopping 7mhz bus speed increase HAHA
By then I think I was moving towards playing more Quake and less doom?

9547bissaid:

It's kind of odd that Doom is remembered for being fast and gory. When it came out, what made it a hit was that it was dark (not the same as 'gory') and tactical (i.e. simple but very well thought out enemies/weapons balance).

Games like RoTT or MK were much more bloody, and back then 90% of the players were keyboarders playing on 386 or early 486, so the game as experienced by most people was hardly 'fast'. I was playing on a 486 DX33 (that's right, 33Mhz of gamin goodness. Suck on that Core i5!) and could not get full screen + full details to be fluid.

antsays...

Same here. I can't stand the ugly pixelated sprites. This one has many addons.

Psychologicsaid:

I can't speak to which one has better gameplay or controls, but I like the visual style of this one better. It doesn't look as "advanced", but it seems more true to the ascetics of the original.

antsays...

SirDOOM for me on my 486 DX2/66.

braschlosansaid:

Quoted for truth

I was paying 20$ a month to have access to a special BBS that tricked Doom into thinking it was on a LAN game. Meaning four player doom over the modem!

At some point I was able to upgrade to a DX4-100 and overclock it to 120mhz like a BAD ASS. A whopping 7mhz bus speed increase HAHA
By then I think I was moving towards playing more Quake and less doom?

braschlosansays...

Shit dude, that was the program name. That part of my memory seemingly didn't exist until today. Weren't you able to chat in the terminal window before starting the game?

That and your DOS/4GW post are blowing my mind. Might I ask the year you were born?

antsaid:

SirDOOM for me on my 486 DX2/66.

antsays...

Yep. Someone started the host. We all had to wait for other players to load their game and join. Even if it take several minutes. I always had to tell people to wait over five minutes BASED ON THEIR CLOCKS (not their heads) since some people were using 386s that took minutes to load DOOM and mods! We couldn't join in real time like the newer games.

I will let you guess on my age.

braschlosansaid:

Shit dude, that was the program name. That part of my memory seemingly didn't exist until today. Weren't you able to chat in the terminal window before starting the game?

That and your DOS/4GW post are blowing my mind. Might I ask the year you were born?

xxovercastxxsays...

I actually set up such a BBS in 1994 but it never got off the ground. I had purchased my servers from a local shop and could never get them stable. The local shop took them back for troubleshooting/repair, but never returned them or my money.

I took the guy to small claims court where he lied about the state of the computers when they were returned, claiming at one point that I had removed all the mounting screws and taped the hardware together. The judge pointed out that, even if true, he was still required to either repair them (possibly at a cost), replace them, or refund them. Ultimately he claimed that I had cursed at his sister a couple years earlier (via BBS chat) and so he was justified in sabotaging my business. He lost, obviously, and ended up refunding my money. Unfortunately, I had still lost a few hundred on other expenses and the release of Quake was on the horizon, so the window of opportunity was nearly closed.

I actually have the "ACPi MultiPlayer Game Server" software sitting next to me on my desk. I came across it a few weeks ago while going through an old box of stuff. Even though it's completely useless, I can't bring myself to throw it out.

braschlosansaid:

I was paying 20$ a month to have access to a special BBS that tricked Doom into thinking it was on a LAN game. Meaning four player doom over the modem!

braschlosansays...

You should upload a zip of that program to the internet!

Then post your story and a link to the software over on http://forums.zdaemon.org/

I'm sure you'll have a few grateful fans

Looking back what do you think the instability was caused by?

xxovercastxxsaid:

I actually set up such a BBS in 1994 but it never got off the ground. I had purchased my servers from a local shop and could never get them stable. The local shop took them back for troubleshooting/repair, but never returned them or my money.

I took the guy to small claims court where he lied about the state of the computers when they were returned, claiming at one point that I had removed all the mounting screws and taped the hardware together. The judge pointed out that, even if true, he was still required to either repair them (possibly at a cost), replace them, or refund them. Ultimately he claimed that I had cursed at his sister a couple years earlier (via BBS chat) and so he was justified in sabotaging my business. He lost, obviously, and ended up refunding my money. Unfortunately, I had still lost a few hundred on other expenses and the release of Quake was on the horizon, so the window of opportunity was nearly closed.

I actually have the "ACPi MultiPlayer Game Server" software sitting next to me on my desk. I came across it a few weeks ago while going through an old box of stuff. Even though it's completely useless, I can't bring myself to throw it out.

braschlosansays...

I would guess you were born in 1978

antsaid:

Yep. Someone started the host. We all had to wait for other players to load their game and join. Even if it take several minutes. I always had to tell people to wait over five minutes BASED ON THEIR CLOCKS (not their heads) since some people were using 386s that took minutes to load DOOM and mods! We couldn't join in real time like the newer games.

I will let you guess on my age.

xxovercastxxsays...

I don't know where I'd get access to a floppy drive to copy it.

After he lost in court, the guy bragged to others that he had damaged the hardware he sold me in the hopes it would keep me from launching.

He always thought he was some bigshot that everyone looked up to, so it's not surprising that he blabbed to every other sysop in the area. Unfortunately for him, the truth was that everyone thought he was a blowhard. Most of the sysops were friendly with me because I did a lot of free ANSI screens for them just because I enjoyed it, so it didn't take long for the news to get back to me from multiple sources.

braschlosansaid:

You should upload a zip of that program to the internet!

Then post your story and a link to the software over on http://forums.zdaemon.org/

I'm sure you'll have a few grateful fans

Looking back what do you think the instability was caused by?

antsays...

There are still out there. I still have them at work and on my old box at home. No, you can't have mine. You can get an external floppy drive with USB connector.

xxovercastxxsaid:

I don't know where I'd get access to a floppy drive to copy it.

After he lost in court, the guy bragged to others that he had damaged the hardware he sold me in the hopes it would keep me from launching.

He always thought he was some bigshot that everyone looked up to, so it's not surprising that he blabbed to every other sysop in the area. Unfortunately for him, the truth was that everyone thought he was a blowhard. Most of the sysops were friendly with me because I did a lot of free ANSI screens for them just because I enjoyed it, so it didn't take long for the news to get back to me from multiple sources.

Draxsays...

I was a bit of a System Shock snob when Doom came out till I went to a friend of a friend and played Doom on his LAN.

I remember noticing a crevice on the map I could hide in that was adjacent to a hallway. Sure enough someone chased me as I was coming up on that hallway, hid.. other guy ran past and I got him in the back.

..Doom it was!

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