*requeue

Re-queueing this video for one more try; last queued Thursday, November 15th, 2007 11:08am PST - requeue requested by submitter kronosposeidon.

Very disturbing. But opens view to a terrible reality, far from our peaceful homes ...

The song rocks.

A vote for the elite 'establishment' is a vote for continuation of this madness. Doesn't matter what party it is. Wake up world. The world is under threat from the war machine.

Good intentions or no, this is a snuff video. *discard

Discarding this post - discard requested by member therealblankman.

Snuff video? Bullshit. *blog

Invocations (blog) cannot be called by CaptWillard because CaptWillard is not privileged - sorry.

No it ain't "snuff", blankman. We had a discussion the other day about snuff videos, and this clearly does not meet that standard. Thanks for the attempt, CaptWillard.

*blog

This video is being sent to Sift Talk for discussion - blog requested by kronosposeidon.

Anyone who thinks this is a snuff video needs to read this discussion first: http://www.videosift.com/video/Canadian-Police-Taser-Man-To-Death

And anyone who discards something like this without at least blogging it first has bad fucking manners. Yeah, I'm talking about you, therealblankman. Should VideoSift just post videos about kitties and unicorns, or can it occasionally show what's happening in a war zone? Or should we sanitize VideoSift for your protection? Get a clue, blankboy.

*save

If the whole video was just that one guy getting killed, then yes, but that is not the focus of the video. Shit, if Ant voted for it, it sure as hell ain't snuff.

I can't *save it?

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

fixed, and moved to ST.

Sorry, this is nothing but snuff and war-porn *ban

kronosposeidon cannot be banned because star accounts are immune to banination - ignoring ban request by therealblankman.

Awww... the video got revived so your wittle feewings got huwt? Grow the fuck up, therealblankman. Wtf is your problem? How does this fit the definition of snuff?
Thank ninjas for immunity to * banning from pissy sifters.

pissy man!! yeah that ban shit is reserved....

Thanks for fixing the SiftTalk problem, dag; and thanks, Gunny and choggie, for the support.

This is anything BUT war porn, blankey. What world do you live in?

Bit rash with the discards and ban invocations.

I'd like to see this returned and put in my This is How I Protest the War playlist. Anyone care to second that with an asterisk?

(link not recommended for blankman, may cause sudden onset of reality)

BAN!? You know I can hold a grudge better than anyone but even I wouldn't try to pull the ban card out on somebody because the community disagreed with me and saved the video!

this is first time I've seen people going mad with star powers on the sift.

the first discard was totally idiotic (he should've blogged it) but could be forgivable.

but trying to invoke ban after DAG returned it to sifttalk is like calling out loud "I'm stupid, just kill me".

*return

This whole thing is rather tiresome. Someone has to do it.

Returning this video from Sift Talk - return requested by eric3579.

this makes me think +blog invocation should work even with videos which have been discarded.

and that maybe +discard invocation should be seconded, and could be called only after video has already been blogged, or something like that

When people object to videos like this I always wonder why they dont want this to be seen, as I do. Is it because the reality of war is so vicious and cruel its hard to stomach. I often am upset, angry and left feeling helpless when I see the horrors of war or the unjust way we the citizens our treated by our own government. I say bring on the dead children, show the abuse of the police and there non lethal tazers. Maybe if we see enough of it we will actually get off our fat asses and write a letter, go to a protest, vote. All I know is my government seems to be leading the way when it comes to the killing of people around the globe,and often I feel sad and ashamed that I havent done more to stop it.

Thanks for the support everyone, and thanks especially to eric3579 for returning it and writing a good comment too.

When I first saw this video, I've read the comment first.

"This is not at all intended to be a war glorification video."

The purpose is clear and that's why I've upvote.

And it's not because we're preserving us by discarding this kind of videos that these hellish wars don't occur. (Sorry for bad english ...)

Ahem, so much sturm und drang and there's no channelization in *waronterror?

We created that channel for a reason!

Adding video to channels (Waronterror) - requested by Krupo.

MarineGunrock... ad hom against members is not cool. That's the first rule of Siftclub. Once that goes, everything goes.

well, but here he's right, you cannot other than hardly blame the blankman for what he did.

MINK. This is a common internet misconception, but, personal attacks and/or harsh language does not automatically constitute an ad hominem attack. MG's comment is just a good old fashioned upbraiding.

In order to be an ad hom, MG would have had to say 'your argument is logically wrong BECAUSE you are stupid and childish', which would be a logical fallacy.

In summary:
'You are an asshole' = Not an ad hom.
'You are wrong BECAUSE you are an asshole' = ad hom.

Sorry to be such a stickler about it.

All the argument stuff seems to be said already, so I'll just note that the "terrible" channel is actually the "that's terrible, who gave that a greenlight" channel, conceived for awful movies etc. We /should/ have a channel for things that are genuinely terrible, tho, IMO.

you're right.
I'm not removing it just because I can't be bothered removing all channels and re-adding the other four all by hand

oh, I remember someone said that in this case the correct thing to do should be to just remove them, and let the poster re-add them himself. whatever.

dystopianfuturetoday....what about, "Bob, you asshole!! Fuck off and die!!'

Sometimes people just need to be told how it is. Keeps em in check.

*fire

Adding video to channels (Fire) - requested by geo321.