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Kruposays...More on the story:
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2013/10/17/first-nations-clashwithpoliceatantifrackingprotest.html
"Omg they burned our cars, so violent!" exclaimed the officer equipped with military gear, pointing guns at women and elders. #Elsipogtog
Sympathy blockades and protests are going up across the country.
eric3579says...Says i have to download Veetle TV to watch this channel.
oritteroposays...*length=185
siftbotsays...The duration of this video has been updated from unknown to 3:05 - length declared by oritteropo.
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notarobotsays...*promote *quality
I don't expect this is the last the protesters will see of the police. Gasco's want their money, and fracking wells is how they will get it.
siftbotsays...Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by notarobot.
Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Thursday, October 17th, 2013 8:39pm PDT - promote requested by notarobot.
bcglorfsays...I'm gonna give the knee jerk Canadian perspective. I may change my opinion after looking closer. From what I currently understand, the land being worked on is owned by the Canadian government, not the protesters. The police arrested protesters that were preventing work from being done. The protesters then set fire to several police cars.
This is ugly and not really sure what more the police/gov were expected to do?
Yogisays...Canada is a democracy right? Therefore the land is owned by the people because Government = People. Also it doesn't matter what specifically will be done to that land if it will destroy the surrounding lands which is what the argument against Fraking is.
I'm gonna give the knee jerk Canadian perspective. I may change my opinion after looking closer. From what I currently understand, the land being worked on is owned by the Canadian government, not the protesters. The police arrested protesters that were preventing work from being done. The protesters then set fire to several police cars.
This is ugly and not really sure what more the police/gov were expected to do?
siftbotsays...Moving this video to Krupo's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.
notarobotsays...Unfortunately things aren't so simple.
My understanding is that the land in question is traditional Native land which was never surrendered to Canada.
Rulings by the Supreme Court of Canada and lower courts have established a duty to consult and accommodate aboriginal people when development is considered on their land, even non-reserve traditional lands. This was either not done, or wasn't successful.
There is also some suspicion that one of the individuals who set fire to the police cruisers is an RCMP informant. But I haven't found satisfactory evidence of that yet. If true, it would not be the first instance of police provocateurs infiltrating protests in Canada.
I'm gonna give the knee jerk Canadian perspective. I may change my opinion after looking closer. From what I currently understand, the land being worked on is owned by the Canadian government, not the protesters. The police arrested protesters that were preventing work from being done. The protesters then set fire to several police cars.
This is ugly and not really sure what more the police/gov were expected to do?
bcglorfsays...The issue is further complicated than you say though. The people claiming traditional rights to that land, which they claim was never given up, are none the less declaring Canadian citizenship, carrying Canadian passports and the vast majority receiving Canadian government compensation for existing treaties. It's not without reason that the majority of Canada sees the protests and has at least a few questions about the legitimacy of claims that the land neither does, nor ever has legally been a part of Canada.
Unfortunately things aren't so simple.
My understanding is that the land in question is traditional Native land which was never surrendered to Canada.
Rulings by the Supreme Court of Canada and lower courts have established a duty to consult and accommodate aboriginal people when development is considered on their land, even non-reserve traditional lands. This was either not done, or wasn't successful.
There is also some suspicion that one of the individuals who set fire to the police cruisers is an RCMP informant. But I haven't found satisfactory evidence of that yet. If true, it would not be the first instance of police provocateurs infiltrating protests in Canada.
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