Ann Coulter Calls Kindergarten Teachers ‘Useless’

As one teacher says, "I’m betting Coulter was one of those students who whined throughout the day about having homework, or actually having to listen in class. If one of her former teachers ever reads this, I commend you for your patience."
bareboards2says...

Men men men men, Men men men men. Men's jobs. Real manly men. Doing Manly Work.

This person is not a feminist. She bows to the patriarchy in an anoxeric uptight way.

Buried in there is a good point. Where are the manufacturing jobs? Fled and it wasn't Hoffa's doing.

I will be quite happy to never hear from this woman again.

JiggaJonsonsays...

Before it comes up I'd like to point out that charter schools, which she mentioned, are not the silver bullet everyone thinks they are. From Multiple Choice Credo, a Stanford study of the effectiveness of Charter schools published in 2009:
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Charter schools have become a rallying cry for education reformers across the country, with every expectation that they will continue to figure prominently in national educational strategy in the months and years to come. And yet, this study reveals in unmistakable terms that, in the aggregate, charter students are not faring as well as their traditional public school counterparts. 

Further, tremendous variation in academic quality among charters is the norm, not the exception.  The problem of quality is the most pressing issue that charter schools and their supporters face.  

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For those who don't know, charter schools are just taxpayer funded schools that the public has zero say in because that taxpayer money is handed over to a private company. Laws and sausages my friend.

blahpooksays...

This is one of the best (if not overly optimistic) responses to this I've seen on the internets so far:


"How many hours a day do you work? 8? I arrive at my school at 7:30 a.m. and leave between 5:30 and 6:30. If I have to meet with a parent, it can sometime go later than that. When you leave work do you take your work home with you to work on later? I review lesson plans and check papers for at least an hour every night, many times longer. Do you work on the weekends after putting in your 40-hour week? I spend many hours every weekend checking papers and preparing for the coming week. Do you have to have a license to do your job? If you do, who pays for that license? I have to have a license, and I have to pay for that license myself. If you have to have a license, do you have to complete a mandatory number of continuing education classes? I do. If you have to complete continuing education classes, do you have to pay for them out of your own pocket? I do. When do you think I take those classes? I take them during the summer. I am at my school until at least the second week of June, and return by the second week of August. That hardly constitutes a whole summer. When people say to me, "It must be nice to have the summer off and still get a paycheck." I always say to them, "Do you remember all of those extra hours I put in over the school year? I am just getting paid for them now." When do you get paid for your overtime hours? Do you have to wait until summer to get paid? Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, I am just telling you the facts. I love my job! I would never want to do anything else. Do you love your job? Do you have children? I hope you have respect for their teacher/s, because most of them work as hard as I do and deserve your respect. And by the way, I like Ann Coulter. and Sara Palin, I think they are brave women. But, I also think Ann misspoke on this one. I would love to have her come and spend a week with me. I bet she would go home and write a book about how fortunate we are to have good teachers."

Phreezdrydsays...

Again with the trashing of someone advocating for workers rights.
I feel sorry for the hard working teacher who you'd think would know better than to listen to the folksy useless crapola spouted by Palin. And listening to Ann Coulter? Some form of brain damage must be involved.

blankfistsays...

My kindergarten teacher sucked and she enjoyed doling out the spankings too much. We spent the year playing with plastic bears and drawing with crayons and getting spankings and fucking around on the playground. It was fine as something to do to stay busy as a kid, but the bastion of educational advancement it was not. Just sayin'.

I bet if I went to a better school, my opinion would've been different. I didn't have that option.

Yogisays...

>> ^blankfist:

My kindergarten teacher sucked and she enjoyed doling out the spankings too much. We spent the year playing with plastic bears and drawing with crayons and getting spankings and fucking around on the playground. It was fine as something to do to stay busy as a kid, but the bastion of educational advancement it was not. Just sayin'.
I bet if I went to a better school, my opinion would've been different. I didn't have that option.


Charter Schools are obviously the answer then, because your experience is the same as everyones ever. Perhaps you didn't realize you were learning...because it was FUCKING Kindergarten and you don't remember shit about it.

JiggaJonsonsays...

@blankfist Yeah, I remember a lot of finger-painting, the Halloween party where I took some candy off the teacher's desk and got in trouble, throwing giant wads of wet toilet paper on the ceiling in the bathroom, and playing with giant legos to build a fort (until some jackass demanded that I share and took my North wall).

I honestly don't remember much or anything about the work involved but I DO remember that I arrived in first grade and we didn't start with the alphabet, we started with reading, and I already knew how to do it.

This may come as a shock to you, but many kids don't pay attention in school to remember last year let alone kindergarten. Tis' a shame really but we do what we can to drill information into their heads, even if they kick and scream to avoid learning it.

Mikus_Aureliussays...

Ann Coulter is welcome to keep advocating back-asswards policies. I never plan to live in a state that doesn't care to fund kindergarten.

Some of these comments seem to have missed the point or their preschool years. Getting a few months head start on reading is great, but the real value of early education is learning to work with others, resolve differences appropriately, and interact with adults. These are skills you learn by 5-6 years old or you never learn them at all. Proactive parents will teach their children these skills (just like some parents teach their children to read), but in many families the school system is their only hope.

Our country is full of people who will never get a real job because they can't talk to an interviewer like a normal person. They lose their temper or give up when faced by setbacks. They misinterpret or disregard the motives of the people they interact with. Putting a bunch of kids in a classroom and letting them play together, express themselves, and interact with an adult who is not a relative is one way to develop these skills.

Here's a link to the most famous study on the effects of preschool. The graphs are fairly amazing.

http://www.highscope.org/content.asp?contentid=219

Here's the NPR podcast where I first heard about it. They basically just rave about the cost/benefit ratio of preschool.

Some NPR podcast

Trancecoachsays...

This was great until she said that she thinks Sara Palin [sic] and Ann Coulter are "brave women." She obviously didn't learn anything in school herself and, despite how hard she works, I wouldn't want her teaching anything having to do with "critical thinking" which she apparently seems to lack.

>> ^blahpook:

This is one of the best (if not overly optimistic) responses to this I've seen on the internets so far:
"How many hours a day do you work? 8? I arrive at my school at 7:30 a.m. and leave between 5:30 and 6:30. If I have to meet with a parent, it can sometime go later than that. When you leave work do you take your work home with you to work on later? I review lesson plans and check papers for at least an hour every night, many times longer. Do you work on the weekends after putting in your 40-hour week? I spend many hours every weekend checking papers and preparing for the coming week. Do you have to have a license to do your job? If you do, who pays for that license? I have to have a license, and I have to pay for that license myself. If you have to have a license, do you have to complete a mandatory number of continuing education classes? I do. If you have to complete continuing education classes, do you have to pay for them out of your own pocket? I do. When do you think I take those classes? I take them during the summer. I am at my school until at least the second week of June, and return by the second week of August. That hardly constitutes a whole summer. When people say to me, "It must be nice to have the summer off and still get a paycheck." I always say to them, "Do you remember all of those extra hours I put in over the school year? I am just getting paid for them now." When do you get paid for your overtime hours? Do you have to wait until summer to get paid? Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, I am just telling you the facts. I love my job! I would never want to do anything else. Do you love your job? Do you have children? I hope you have respect for their teacher/s, because most of them work as hard as I do and deserve your respect. And by the way, I like Ann Coulter. and Sara Palin, I think they are brave women. But, I also think Ann misspoke on this one. I would love to have her come and spend a week with me. I bet she would go home and write a book about how fortunate we are to have good teachers."

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

Ann's gig is to stake out the most offensive and ridiculous position on a given issue so that other conservatives may seem less crazy by comparison. Statements like this provide an opening for politicians to say something like...

"Well, I don't agree with extremists in my party who think Kindergarten teachers are useless, I take the more moderate position of wanting to fully fund Educorp Industries brand private schools with public dollars and cut all public teacher salaries to minimum wage (until we can get rid of wage minimums). Did I mention that I am a moderate?"

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