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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Wednesday, April 18th, 2012 10:34am PDT - promote requested by LarsaruS.

Awesome! Except I wouldn't really call Coventry a "town". When I was growing up there it was a perpetually miserable, industrial city, with a collapsing car industry, full of ugly and hopeless people with nothing better to do than try to sell you coke or put dog shit through your letterbox after you beat them up with a baseball bat for threatening to kill your dog.

Man, fuck Coventry.

So... The First True American:
Argued that the scientific advice of the time was a'myth', refused to accept standard scientific measurement, and brashly set off to foreign destinations to try to prove false information to be correct.

Next you'll tell me Columbus was a fanatical right wing conservative christian, hated any form of taxation, and thought the Spanish military was too small and needed significant over investment.

Videos like these should be the backbone of our educational system, instead of 55 minutes of oration with 0 visuals.

Whenever I again hear the viking horns myth I'm reminded of the quote:
"A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside" - Blackadder (from Blackadder Goes Forth) referring to World War 1

Columbus never set foot on North America either.

So there's that...

>> ^Gallowflak:

Awesome! Except I wouldn't really call Coventry a "town". When I was growing up there it was a perpetually miserable, industrial city, with a collapsing car industry, full of ugly and hopeless people with nothing better to do than try to sell you coke or put dog shit through your letterbox after you beat them up with a baseball bat for threatening to kill your dog.
Man, fuck Coventry.


Every city has it's bad side. The Coventry I know is, thankfully, not the generalised one you recall.

I was being fatuous.

>> ^A10anis:

>> ^Gallowflak:
Awesome! Except I wouldn't really call Coventry a "town". When I was growing up there it was a perpetually miserable, industrial city, with a collapsing car industry, full of ugly and hopeless people with nothing better to do than try to sell you coke or put dog shit through your letterbox after you beat them up with a baseball bat for threatening to kill your dog.
Man, fuck Coventry.

Every city has it's bad side. The Coventry I know is, thankfully, not the generalised one you recall.

>> ^Gallowflak:

I was being fatuous.
>> ^A10anis:
>> ^Gallowflak:
Awesome! Except I wouldn't really call Coventry a "town". When I was growing up there it was a perpetually miserable, industrial city, with a collapsing car industry, full of ugly and hopeless people with nothing better to do than try to sell you coke or put dog shit through your letterbox after you beat them up with a baseball bat for threatening to kill your dog.
Man, fuck Coventry.

Every city has it's bad side. The Coventry I know is, thankfully, not the generalised one you recall.


Sorry, it certainly didn't come across that way. Maybe next time you might consider ticking the "sarcasm" box.

Fun fact: the British propaganda worked so well that today the French themselves believe that Napoleon was a short guy.

I knew all of these.

Bring on the next 5 please, I want to be enlightened.

Well and of course we know #1 actually can be continued as for some reason there seemed to already be people there.

So in fact they probably found it first a LONG time ago up by Alaska's volcanic chain via the Russia/Alaska land-bridge that would have existed there for a time; plus someone would have to fill me in but I'm not entirely sure where the Polynesians "may" fit into all of this--as I know they were also known to be GREAT seamen and went very far on extremely small vessels (the ones I'm thinking of you actually have your legs in the water and it carries about six people and is designed sort of like an odd Catamaran)--Hawaii for example was settled into by 300-500 CE. Then the Vikings in Greenland, Canada, and North America (I think just Maine and a few points in Newfoundland--they also didn't stick around for long in these areas as they left these "western" camps to go back to Greenland for the winter). Finally, Columbus made it who sailed around The Caribbean a bit (basically Cuba then Haiti I think; if I remembered right--after coming from the Canary Islands).

There may even be more history to it as unfortunately we know how history is written AND if you don't have that much of a language and worse no paper or way to reference or keep track of old material, telling your story becomes VERY hard as it was never recorded in the first place. All we have left is archeology to help guide us to these newer, more exact figures and finders.

BUT, Columbus did find the first real trade route for 15th century Europe to a "New World", one that had its own spices and plenty of bounty, and THAT is what meant everything. THIS is what people should remember, not that he found it first or the round Earth garbage--that is just bad teachers and even worse (as I READ THEM) terrible history books!

>> ^raverman:

So... The First True American

Columbus wasn't a true American, the people he killed and/or enslaved when he got there were.