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Man Rips Up His Cash Over Seat Belt Ticket

visionep says...

Quick google search, since I never really looked at the legal liability side pf this issue before.

Some states actually hold drivers accountable for not wearing their seatbelts and discount the payout for injuries, others don't allow insurance companies to consider whether the driver was wearing a seatbelt or not when looking at their injuries. (California discounts, Pennsylvania doesn't)

I think you are understating the societal impact of obesity compared to drivers getting more badly injured without seatbelts. To be clear I don't think the government should be regulating either.

newtboy said:

Perhaps not, but we don’t live in a free society, nor a responsibility free society.

The effects are not low. The difference in cost of a serious car crash with and without seatbelts is in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars.

Again, because you can be “at fault” through no fault of your own, and responsible for all injuries the other driver suffers, it’s not just smart but the only responsible move to be forced to wear them and minimize the shared risk.
It’s 100% unfair for the other driver to be allowed to take the high risk of not wearing it but you have to pay for the consequences of their irresponsibility….don’t you think?
The difference here as opposed to, say, obesity is the risk/consequences of the irresponsibly transfer to others regularly and often completely (at least financially).

If not wearing it was an automatic waiver for any and all bodily injury damages, fine, but it isn’t so being forced to wear it is the only sane and rational move. Because that choice can turn a no damage bump into injuries requiring life long care

Man Rips Up His Cash Over Seat Belt Ticket

visionep says...

I'm having a hard time imagining the case where wearing a seat belt is going to make you have better control of your car after a collision.

Your moral case, for wearing a seatbelt, while personally compelling, doesn't mean the government should be controlling that activity for individuals. Being selfish is usually not a crime.

There is shared risk if you look deep enough in all activities that people engage in throughout their lives. Newtboy's assertion that these types of activities should be regulated because of their knock-on effects doesn't seem practical in a "free" society.

The reason I don't understand why this is a law is because the affects to society are so low and are similar to many other unregulated choices people are allowed to make. The inconsistency is painful.

BSR said:

Seat belts will better help keep you in control of your vehicle after a collision. If your car rolls over or you go sideways into a tree it helps keep you from back, head and neck injuries which could leave you with pain and mobility issues long after the crash. I also see it as being very selfish to your family and loved ones who potentially may have to care for you if you survive, in which case you will be very annoyed and annoying.

It should be mandated by government because some people think they are the best drivers ever.

Does any of your family members drive the disabled alarm car?

Man Rips Up His Cash Over Seat Belt Ticket

visionep says...

Those alarms can be disabled. I always disable them on my cars so it doesn't annoy me when I don't want to wear my seatbelt.

Seatbelt laws are very strange to me. I think the law should only be that you can get a ticket if you don't force your children to wear a seatbelt. Forcing adults to wear them does nothing for public safety, it's a personal safety issue which shouldn't be mandated by the government.

I'm surprised the cops didn't refer the guy to mental services. This guy definitely has control issues and it would be worth it for his family to have him checked out and get help if he needed it.

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visionep says...

Charged 3 people.. How many were convicted? Oh yea.. zero..

He at least had enough of that facts right in one case to get the person in trouble, but it was such a minor offense (modifying an email that was used along with other evidence to get a warrant to monitor someone) that there were no repurcussions.

Talk about a huge waste of time.

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visionep says...

How is Bidens answer of "we will make sure he doesn't take power by following the constitution" a suspect answer?

I guess when everyone you follow spews lies and says things that are measurably unlawful that someone saying they will follow the laws of our country to accomplish their goals sounds fishy?

Wow... talk about a giant nothing of an argument.

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visionep says...

This would make a good movie.. You could name it something like Red October and get a Scottish guy to play the Russian captain so everyone would be able to empathize with how noble he is.

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visionep says...

If you are into the math, here's a good explanation of what the proof probably looks like. The news people are wrong in some of what they say just because they aren't specific. But these kids did a good job figuring this out.

https://youtu.be/nQD6lDwFmCc

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visionep says...

I hope everyone escaped without long term injuries.

I wonder how liability works in a case like this.

Possible scenarios:
1. Freak accident, no one is liable.
2. Truck owner is liable, but only because they modified their car from manufacturer spec?
3. Truck manufacturer is liable, faulty construction?
4. State or federal government is liable because of something in the road that make the truck's tire fall off.
5. After market kit provider or after market kit installer is liable because their modification lead to the failure that caused the tire to come off.

I wonder how it all worked out.

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visionep says...

Nice dramatic music.

The thing was way too loud for recreational use. It also wasn't stable in wind and never had a safety system implemented so when there was a failure you just fell out of the sky from 100 feet up.

The 45 minute running time is very optimistic. The amount of thrust for fuel burned ( 0.683 lb/lbf/h) is not efficient. The engine also only provided 600lbs of thrust where the entire system weighed just over 400 lbs without fuel or a pilot.

No conspiracy, just not financially and technically useful enough to garner further development.

The Wikipedia article give a lot of good technical details, you can also look up the patent. A little data and common sense can easily overcome the drama created by overly dramatic music.

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visionep says...

I don't think using the notoriously brutal and horrific Aztec society as an alternative base for naming, makes things any better. Looking into the atrocities committed by that society makes the trail of tears look like a Sunday stroll in the park.

It would be better to use the meaning of the Aztec name "flower that grows in residues or soil" or even just make up a new name like "holiday flower" if we really want to clean up the historical associations of things that we like but are uncomfortable with the historical associations.

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