PressTV is whole paid for by the Iranian regime, I would take this interview with a grain of salt. It would be like watching Fox news and expecting to learn the truth about Iran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cam4hzbKpa0

*dead

Republicans don't care about being called liars, they don't care about being called hypocrites, they only care about winning and having it go their way in the end.

Just look at Obama, he keeps pointing out how uncooperative the Republicans are, then he compromises to their position.

By the end of debt ceiling shenanigans, Democrats will disappoint their base and Republicans will keep the private jet subsidies.

I want to take back my up vote!

The argument presented is flawed, a lot of technology we use today came out of military spending for wars (e.g. GPS), so wars are a good approach and life philosophy?

@marbles

Thanks for sharing your sources with us, I have not followed details of Syria's events, but I can respond to the articles about Iran.

Re: US trains activists to evade security forces
Offering tools that circumvent government censorship firewalls, is not instigation. Iran's government has strict rules for ISPs to share information with the government, much like the warrantless wiretapping in US. If HTTPS circumvents the wiretapping, then is IETF instigating revolution in US?

Re: 'US trains Jundullah members'
Jundullah is a terrorist group, has nothing to do with peaceful protests and civil movements in Iran.

Re: 'has intelligence agents working in Iran'
Duh, of course and Iran has intelligence working in US. Is the Wisconsin labour movement instigated by Iran? http://www.presstv.com/detail/168937.html

Re: Kissinger threatens regime change in Iran if coup fails
Kissinger said that if the government is NOT democratic, then US would work for regime change. US is doing that right now with the global sanctions on Iran. You can't take his words and say that the millions that protested after the election were all tricked by US propaganda and spies!

Re: Proof: Israeli Effort to Destabilize Iran Via Twitter #IranElection
Online activities such as twitter and facebook are reports of what's going on, not the actual events. People went to the streets and protested, they were shot, killed and prisoned. You need to look at the number of people that risked their lives to measure their force and influence, not twittes!

Re: Iranian Unrest: Evidence Of Western Intelligence Meddling
"CIA/Mossad flooding Iranians with contradicting SMS messages"
I never hear of any broadcast SMS messages in support of the protestors. Government did send threatening SMS messages to discourage people from going to protests. People SMSed each other, but that way you know the person that SMSed you. If I get a SMS from a number I don't recognize, I would just ignore it, but if my friend tells me something, then I would listen!

This is exactly how it happen (eye witness report), after they announced that Ahmadinejad won the election, it was late in the evening, people were in disbelieve, they walked out of their houses and talked with neighbors, once they saw that all around them were Mousavi supporters and no one that was cheering Ahmadinejad's victory. If Ahmadinejad has majority support in their riding, as the polling stations had reported, then where are those supporters? After that evening people knew that they has cheated, from talking to neighbors face to face, and NOT from a twitter fed for god's sake. The west learned about it from twitter, not people inside Iran!

Re: Iran busts another CIA network
Iran's government labels any dissenters as US backed agents or drug dealers. Are the people working to free Bradley Manning agents of foreign governments? Now the hard liners in Iran are accusing Ahmadinejad of initiating negotiations with US and are calling for his impeachment. US is the boogyman used to justify any action that the regime wants to take. Like the "terrorist" threat in america, used to take away people's freedoms, its not REAL!

Re: Soros, the CIA, Mossad and the new media destabilization of Iran
This article is a rehash of the previous ones, no new points here.

Just because governments are spreading propaganda against each other, it doesn't mean that the civil movements inside those countries are made up of manipulated and instigated people!
US caught off-guard by Iran sanctions
Iran to sue US over human rights abuse

03:56 "Batman Returns isn't without its charms"!

I second that link request!

Wikileaks released some US embassy cables, which was of communications between some of Iran's neighboring arab states and US. Those states have competing interests with Iran and are not its allies. In those cables, the arab states told US, what US wanted to hear, which was that Iran is a problem. The arab states are worried about Iran becoming nuclear and a superpower. That information was well known and the arab states all had close relations with US already.

These cables revealed no information on a "color revolution", so I am curious to see marbles sources on his wikileaks claim.

>> ^RedSky:

Link plz.
>> ^marbles:
There was a failed color revolution in Iran in 2009. I believe there are Wikileaks cables confirming it and the operation in Syria.

I was not aware of that, could you reference unbiased sources on this claim?

I saw similar accusations when the protests broke out in Iran, but people have real grievances and are disgruntled with lack of freedom and mismanagement of the country.

>> ^marbles:

>> ^theali:
Yep, this is why these oppressive regimes don't allow reporters to cover the events. Its easy to dismiss citizen journalism and question its authenticity. Both Iran and Syria kicked out all international reporters right before the crackdown.
Well to be fair, I'm pretty sure they kicked out all foreigners. Can't really blame them when Foreign Intelligence members are the main instigators of the rebellions.

Yep, this is why these oppressive regimes don't allow reporters to cover the events. Its easy to dismiss citizen journalism and question its authenticity. Both Iran and Syria kicked out all international reporters right before the crackdown.

>> ^eric3579:

Maybe or maybe not.

Re "cherished as birthplace of monotheism" 5:08
Jerusalem is birthplace of Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), but definitely NOT the birthplace of monotheism.

Zoroastrians and Egypt's Akhenaten introduced monotheism centuries before there was Judaism.

In the documentary BBC - Science and Islam http://videosift.com/video/BBC-Science-and-Islam

It suggests that Islam fell out of being the preferred language of science after the invention of the printing press.

Arabic was used for science because of all its phonetic symbols, which enabled people of any nation to understand each other and do scientific debates in person. Production and writing of scientific papers was expensive, since they had to be hand written, no matter what the language. So only ideas that were fully debated would be written down and distributed.

With invention of the printing press, English became the preferred language of science, because now it was cheap to produce and distribute scientific papers. English letters are easily put on printing press block letters. So it became possible to do peer review of scientific papers published anywhere in the world. They tried to print Arabic with the printing press, but the language wasn't well suited for that, because of the same phonetic symbols which had given it the edge in the past.

And that is how the Islamic world fell out of science...

The stop sign with Harper's name on it became a meme during elections in Canada. I have seen multiple stop signs like that myself and on the net.

http://www.ronerwin.com/big/100804D9110.jpg
http://winnipegpunk.com/images/news/election/2011/stop-harper.gif
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayleyluftig/5761297596/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fanningphotography/5682641647/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleversimon/3192122981/
http://www.gigcity.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Fish-Third-Harper-stop.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roland/2943401474/

It might not be an Internet scale meme, but for Canada its a meme alright.

>> ^burdturgler:

... Don't see the meme either.
nochannel canada politics news

Canada is controlled by the fertility mushroom cult of Amanita Muscaria

>> ^shuac:

What's with all the Santa suits?

Nazis had their day in court AFTER they were fully defited, both morally and physically. Al Quida hasn't been defited yet, as an organization and ideology. The courts would have dragged on and opened many cans of worms before an actual victory is achieved.

Give historic example of trial when the war was still going on.

>> ^blankfist:

@NetRunner, I'm saying that progressives were cheering the skirting of due process. I probably mentioned that at least two or three times in this thread alone, not to mention in other discussions on this site, so I'm not sure why you're confused.
When I bring this up on the Sift, the bloodthirsty progressives swarm in like flies to honey and build the flimsy straw man argument that I'm somehow standing up for Osama. The "who" in this scenario isn't the point; the "what" is. When government can side step a fundamental right one time and it's cheered by the people, it becomes precedent.
If anything, the progressives should've been in front of the White House demanding Obama step down for his kill order. Even the Nazis had their day in court.

Best fictional drug is Substance D from Scanner Darkly

http://youtu.be/_um0Nj5DveA