I hear the original had to do with the xenophobia happening in south africa currently. Now, 15+ years after apartheit, it's not black vs white, it's local vs foreigners .. the foreigners being , zimbabwean, nigerian, angolans etc. these are percieved as bringing more poverty to already poverty striken areas. so with the foreigners drugs and crime follow and so does fear and hatred towards them. I have a couple of zimbabweans employed and can tell you horror stories. the one guy during the violence couldn't reach his wife in a township. clever thing is they patrolled the "taxi" ranks , knowing there was no alternative means of getting into the township. it's like canned lion hunting they get delivered to you neatly wrapped in a box. (for those that don't know the taxi companies run rackets here, so they are normally involved in this sort of stuff)

very cool, can one actually get to play with this tech or is this going to be one those integrated features for a ueber expensive software package

seriously? world's best marriage proposal , _ever_ ? maybe the best ever performed for the on lookers... even the people in the background were going "is this staged?"..

rape


longde , i agree.

we're not talking Nobel savage here. traditionalism means killing people in horrific manners and really generally acting absolutely horrific to people who aren't your kind.
the thing is , apartheit here had an interest in keeping people ignorant so a lot of "tribalism" made it very very far into the "modern" age. the daily "extreams" we go through are far bigger than in other places. superstitions and old ways of thinking in terms of how to enforce your position in society are taking over. traditionalism means things like , killings because or driven by superstitions or enforcing your dominance over other by _rape_ whether male or female...
your rights as a man! your duty as a man! you want to be a man don't you? remember how it felt when this happens to you or people you know? how perfectly acceptable. for me? i have no time to rape them. as if he knew he should have.


think about it.. by any standard westernised or not that is wrong. but the power stays with the masses , the ignorant masses .. we were promised freedom but all we got was the right to freedom. we simply didn't expect people didn't want to choose it because of all the responsibilities and needs.

so what we choose is the crazy but safe superstitions of the past.
i give you south africa. bleek but true.

if anyone wants to know more about specifics about examples etc. feel free to ask i'll try find you an article or two.

yeah circumcision is just as bad. i think the problem is circumcised people also try "compensate" by forcing it onto others and shreeking / making bad jokes when others point out how 'unacceptible'/'freakish' they would normally find it. there was a video here , http://www.videosift.com/video/Functions-of-the-Prepuce-or-Foreskin-part-1 , that is very informative in regards to what exactly gets lost. definately scary that people do this kind of thing to their poor helpless kids. they definately alter the sexual function of their child and will never experience the full sexual experience. look if people want to do that to themselves then sure, go ahead we're all adults and you can decide for yourself but a bloody child? .... have you watched a circumcision. how much pain is that poor thing going through? and for what exactly? *scratches head* body modification is a personal choice not some leash your culture puts on you so that you're the same or that other's feel better about their alterations.

hi, sorry about the tone of the previous comment , it just get's very very frustrating living in a place like this and being confronted with this thing while the majority of people keep quiet because you're not allowed to say anything about traditionalist culture ... seriously , we're heading into the stone age here and the majority accepts and almost worships it. ... -frustrated in south africa.

as a south african, this is a horrible to admit but this is _NOT_ a misrepresentation of african culture. sure it may not be an universal opinion but considering our high rape rate here (1 in 4 women can expect to be raped) I actually find it quite insulting that you guys are comparing this to 'prison rape' or say this claim is racist.

let me fill you in, you have several 'traditional' cultures for whom it's a 'right' to sleep with a women. they are 'supposed' to be raped if they refuse, irrespective of their being lesbian or not. t

his isn't a south african thing tho. it's a 'african' traditionalist culture thing. not a result of 'white' vs 'black' this is just how it's been and what is done , since the time of shaka zulu. (read up on traditional zulu culture , you'll wanna throw up at points and at other's you'll be dreaming of the the nobal savage)

there is a culture "war" that is going on at the moment here.. 'modern' 'westernised' african culture vs. 'traditionalist' culture.

traditionalism is winning just look at who president zuma is , what is attiude is to aids and women. hell, he literally said in court in _HIS_ rape "case" that 'when a women is wares a skirt' she's asking for it. she has no right to deny a man.
and this man is an apartheit war hero , viva le revolution..

i bet i can do someting very few of you can do .. name 6 women in my imidiate every day enviroment that have been raped/gang raped for the sake of raping , no 'justice' no legal recourse ... nothing .. because the cops are way too closely tied to the communities and because they are just as tradtitionalist as the government pretends not to be. no evidence, it goes missing, no treatment because the community clinics think you 'deserved' it. hell, you ever wonder why aids is so high here???

the 2010 viva world cup is going to be truely interesting , i wonder how many of your women are going to be raped and what excuses will be used to explain it away. (american / eurpeans)