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[West Wing] President quotes bible at right wing radio host

rosspruden says...

While there are elements of truth in what you say, Akujin, the clip is quite clear in calling out fundamentalists who quote certain parts of the Bible, but conveniently ignore others:

"I don't call homosexuality an abomination -- the Bible does."

I know fundamentalist Christians who use this kind of logic to justify homosexuality as a sin. The Bible says any number of things, and any non-Christian could easily sift out which sections are life lessons and which sections should be understood as outdated mores, like eating cooked pork.

So there isn't summary judgement from me against all Christians, or even agasint fundamentalist Christians, just against the ones who quote ancient and obsolete texts in an enlightened world.

Angel-A (the mirror scene)

Angel-A (the mirror scene)

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rosspruden says...

LOL -- I just saw theo47's comment. That's right, a YEAR LATER. I wonder why he said that...

Yeah, I used to be in advertising. Lasted about 9 months in actual time, which is about 2.7 years in advertising time. heh heh.

Barack Obama "I inhaled frequently" "That was the point"

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Filmmaker Peter Greenaway declares: cinema = dead

rosspruden says...

TV didn't kill radio... TV redefined radio's function. So Greenaway makes some good points, but he leans towards hyperbole. As only Greeenaway can.

Also, this is *nsfw because he uses 1 naughty word. (Sorry!)

Ron Paul The Unelectable The Champion Of The Constitution

rosspruden says...

^ gwiz We could talk for another few months about the legitimacy and/or justification for going to war in Iraq, so it's really a red herring to this discussion, in my view.

As a sound bite, "just come home" is fundmentally lacking because it doesn't convey your nuance of "as soon as possible." In fact, ALL the presidential candidates want the troops to come home as soon as possible, but how that's defined is what is on the table. Does that mean 3 years, 10 years, 2 months, 10 weeks, 14 days, or tomorrow? "Just come home," implies tomorrow.

In any event, I'm giving you an upvote for invoking Stephen Fry.

Barack Obama "I inhaled frequently" "That was the point"

Ron Paul The Unelectable The Champion Of The Constitution

rosspruden says...

^ dead_tofo I don't really know how to respond to all that. I mean, when I read, "agian, EDUZCATE YOURSELF", I have to stifle my laughter, you know?

If you disagree with me, I'm okay with that, but if you *really* care to enlighten me, wouldn't you be better served by deleting your vindictiveness and laying out a rational and respectful (and error-free) rebuttal? If you just want to resort to ad hominem attacks, that's your choice... just be aware that when you do, you give me carte blanche to dismiss everything you say as rantings of a looney.

Ron Paul The Unelectable The Champion Of The Constitution

rosspruden says...

I stopped watching at "Just come home.", his proposed solution to ending the war in Iraq.

I apologize for being so blunt, but that's a dumb sound bite for dumb Americans to clap at. The situation in Iraq is vastly complicated and as such it deserves a delicate solution; you wouldn't tear up somebody's house and then leave them to clean up the mess, would you? In my opinion, America has a responsibility to leave Iraq in as good or better position than it was before it invaded... but that's just my opinion and it's a relatively uninformed one at that: the only people who really know what they hell they're talking about are the military commanders on the ground who deal with the messy situation in Iraq on a daily basis, and the foreign policy analysts listening to those commanders' reports with an open mind.

Do I want American troops to come home like, uh, YESTERDAY? Of course. Who doesn't? But it's not that simple. If you pull troops out today, abruptly, then Iraq would likely descend into chaos, civil war, and the whole region could destabilize even more than it already is. Sure, Ron Paul can make sweeping sensationalist statements like "Just come home", but when he's sitting behind the desk at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, I would expect his military commanders and foreign policy analysts to beg him to see reason.

However, I'm not downvoting this video—it's well-made and others might enjoy it.

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