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robv says...

You're my first downvote with my new bronze star. Delicious.

My response to the trailer - holy crapping shit balls. Benedict Cumberbatch is a boss.

Sylvester_Ink said:

I'm not expecting anything good out of this one. I mean, I didn't care for Star Trek (2009) either, but at least that one had some of the elements of what Star Trek was about. This looks like a run of the mill comic-book action movie.
I remember when Star Trek was about exploration, philosophy, politics, and discovery. Now it's become something much more mundane, and that's kind of sad, not just on the part of Hollywood, but also on the part of the general public, who can't seem to appreciate the deeper things nowadays.

Also, just because it's a movie doesn't mean you need to focus on some villain on a quest for vengeance all the time. Anyone remember Star Trek VI? I actually consider that to be the best of the Star Trek movies, with its deconstruction of the collapse of communism and how it affected those who lived in that era. Sure it wasn't as tight as Star Trek II, but it had a much greater impact.

Besides, whenever they try to do an amazing, new villain to rival Khan, they always forget to make the villain compelling and interesting. Khan had this advantage because of his background in Space Seed, whereas villains like Shinzon and Nero are bland and undeveloped. (Well, at least effort was made with Shinzon, but they failed to make him a compelling, sympathetic villain. Nero wasn't supposed to upstage the origin story of the crew, but in that case, was he really needed?)

Anyway, I've been kind of ranting about this with friends lately, and I guess that's spilled over to VS now. But that's my position, and I stand by it.

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robv says...

Isn't up and to the right recollection? Up and to the left is imagination. ... ?

>> ^Jinx:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
Eyes, up and to the left = liars.

We do that when recollecting something that actually happened too though. Because everybody knows that a shifty gaze looks suspicious liars will attempt to mask it by staring you down. On the flip side I can think of a few occasions where I knew somebody suspected me of lying even when I was truthful. So I try no to make any gestures that might be misconstrued as tells and I end up looking even more stiff and awkward. Basically I think all that stuff is kinda bs, especially considering confirmaton bias.

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