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swampgirl (Member Profile)

grspec says...

I'm not saying it means that much to me, and I don't even know how to say this the right way. I just didn't feel it should be self-discarded because it is found offensive and it is not becuase I don't care, but because I think everyone finds things tolerable on different levels and since we are a democracy here I figured I would leave it to the people to decide. I like to think I don't go around doing things to hurt people or piss people off and while I can understand the issue this revolves around (9/11) is a emotional one I still thought it deserved sifting.

I am sorry that if really upset you, I was upset myself to see how it affected you.

In reply to your comment:
Ok,I re-discarded it then. If this sift means that much to you, then please blog it back. I'm happy to let the controversy die with it since I really really hate being at odds with you over a video.

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Didn't this already get discarded due to negative votes? I posted this knowing that it was going to be controversial but it wasn't done with the intent to offend people, if anything it was done to entice debate. Also as much as I don't want to offend anyone, I have a hard time self discarding a video because it did. If everyone were to discard a video that someone else found offensive there wouldn't be a lot of videos left on this sift.

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grspec says...

Didn't this already get discarded due to negative votes? I posted this knowing that it was going to be controversial but it wasn't done with the intent to offend people, if anything it was done to entice debate. Also as much as I don't want to offend anyone, I have a hard time self discarding a video because it did. If everyone were to discard a video that someone else found offensive there wouldn't be a lot of videos left on this sift.

swampgirl (Member Profile)

grspec says...

I have no idea what the piece means, I just know it was meant as a statement about 9/11, albiet a warped statement. An I posted it knowing it was going to get some very strong reactions and most likely get downvoted into oblivion, but sometimes its better to sift and miss than to not sift at all.

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Powerful, yes...powerfully offensive. This is horrid. And call it art if you like, it is porn. There are clear pornographic pictures in here, some flashed very quickly. Pause near the end and you'll see.

You posted this so explain to me the meaning of this piece? If I'm supposed to feel ill afterwards, then it's a success (and I'm not talking about the pornography)

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gorgonheap (Member Profile)

grspec says...

Thanks for the explanation even though I thought you went above and beyond what was required. I do appreciate it and can respect it.

Also I don't hate downvotes I just hate certain downvotes . But seriously though, everyone has the power to vote up or down and it is their right to choose which.

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Ok I watched the whole thing. And after thinking about it I really can't upvote this. Powerful, maybe to some. But the whole sex thing was a major strike against it. I know you hate downvotes grspec. But in all honesty I can't in good conscience upvote this.

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