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spoco2
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well i can't seem to find any solid statistics on violent deaths across countries, mainly because i dont subscrube to resources like those, but heres a BBC article
what an awesome deterrent huh.. (btw, what an ugly truth)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1566715.stm
or maybe its because:
Guns are deeply rooted within Swiss culture - but the gun crime rate is so low that statistics are not even kept.
i agree with what you're saying about more guns might cause crimes of passion on impulse, but what makes Switzerland different?
United Kingdom vs Switzerland
A European example would be to compare the violent crime levels of the United Kingdom, which has very strict rules against gun ownership, with Switzerland, which has fully automatic assault rifles in 14% of homes. [1] According to the British Home Office, Switzerland had a homicide rate per 100,000 of 1.2 average over the years 1999-2001, which is less than England & Wales at 1.61, although Scotland is higher at 2.16, while Northern Ireland - with its historically exceptional conditions - is at 2.65. The latter compares with the Irish Republic (with similar gun control laws to the UK) at 1.42. [2]
These data indicate a negative correlation between gun ownership and crime. However, simple correlative evidence concerning two examples is inconclusive as to causation. Put another way, these data do not conclusively indicate that the higher gun ownership rate in Switzerland is a cause of that country's lower homicide rate, although that conclusion is frequently drawn.
Data can be skewed to say that there is a positive correlation between guns and crime, and that there is a negative correlation betweeen the two depending on what countries and how you poll etc. This correlation, does it necessarily imply causation? I think theres much more at hand than just how many guns are floating around, its definately got something to do with their culture and how they view guns and violence in everyday life.
i dont know about you but i'd think twice about waving around a gun when everybody has access to those same guns. Its sort of like when everyone has nukes
besides, if someone is intent on kiling somebody they dont need a gun to do it (one way or another, see: milions of pissed off wives who drug their husbands to death when they come back home smelling like perfume)
on the other hand, not having guns only does the opposite, it prevents the people who can put a stop to a situation like VT massacre and renders them useless while they wait for the SWAT team to arrive. (last incident over there was stopped by a man with a gun) and it like i said you dont need a gun to kill, not having guns wont prevent the millions of other ways to render a person not breathing.
In reply to your comment:
And?
Where in that does it say anything in regards to gun ownership and a link to gun violence?
Check out this greaph which shows a strong link between suicides with guns and gun ownership levels. (and in case you were going to say... "and shows that there is little evidence that rates of homicide and suicide by means other than firearms increase where gun ownership is lower.")
It's just basic common sense isn't it? Don't give guns to more people, how is that going to make things better? "FUCK YOU MAN, I DESERVED A High Distinction ON THAT PAPER!" BANG, BANG, BANG... Having guns easily accessible means that in the heat of the moment people have the opportunity to do really stupid, deadly things.
Not having guns during heated situations means that there may be fist fights, yelling etc. but not deaths, not anything that can't be apologised for and made right. You can't make right shooting someone in the head.
In reply to your comment:
“i'll play devil's advocate and link you to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_policy_in_Switzerland
In reply to your comment:
“I SO HATE those that try and suggest 'If others had had guns, he could have been stopped'... because we all know to stop violence, just arm more people.
F*cktards.””
spoco2
(Member Profile)
i'll play devil's advocate and link you to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_policy_in_Switzerland
In reply to your comment:
I SO HATE those that try and suggest 'If others had had guns, he could have been stopped'... because we all know to stop violence, just arm more people.
F*cktards.
Tron Lightbike Scene
you made me go out and buy the DVD; this movie rocks
Trailer for the best movie ever made about Computers: Tron
*dead
Dancing on train - Bollywood style from movie "DIL SE"
YES!
COLBERT: Torture Gonzales to Get to the Truth
um this is the first time im *deading a motherload video. not sure what its supposed to look like
The Man with Exploding Arms
*dead
"I would change the whole drug policy"
What you do to your body is none of the government's fucking business (as long as it doesnt hurt or disturb someone else's rights). How would you like it if the government told you can't eat fatty cheeseburgers because those are conducive to heart attacks and outright banned them? What if we decided to outright ban all those donuts because they are also conducive to diabetes? It's the same concept, get it through your thick skull
Its not like banning them suddenly makes the problem go away? Have you noticed that? If a person wants to get their shit, its easy as that. If you legalize and regulate it, at least you can minimize on the rampant availability and save some money on this wasteful use of my and your tax dollars spent on housing druggies in our prisons and my and your tax dollars spent on enforcement in the farce of the 'war on drugs'
Sheriff Allows Illegal Trespass
get the fuck off my property
True Lies: bathroom fight
*dead it is
Nena - 99 Luftballons
Wow okay I didn't know Nena actually also did a english version of the song (not Goldfinger)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14IRDDnEPR4
Train Horn Scare Prank
what an effective horn, it actually accomplishes what its supposed to do.
The Dancing Baby: Father of the Internet
this shit still pisses me off to this day.
NSFW! - British Troops Beating Young Iraqis On Camera
...makes me sick
LAPD attacks Crowd at a Immigration Demonstration
assholes